All-In with Queens against Super-Donk

[Woolygimp]

Normally this is a 99% fold for me with QQ. I think because of the weird PF action i decided it was time to exercise that 1% of the time that I'll call this.

Guy took a few beats, the min-raise looks pretty donkish...
Then he comes over the top with it all? Looks to me like, "Hey I'm on tilt...don't f***ing raise me and even if you call hell I can get lucky and double up!"

I still don't like my call because I HAVE seen donks min-raise EP with KK/AA.
Opinions?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ BB (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

UTG+1 ($188.75)
MP1 ($171.50)
<font color="#C00000">MP2 ($99)</font>
MP3 ($308.10)
CO ($209.95)
<font color="#C00000">Hero ($197.25)</font>
SB ($58)
BB ($113.30)
UTG ($152)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $1.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls $4, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $95 (All-In), CO folds, Hero calls $86.

Flop: ($205) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Turn: ($205) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

River: ($205) 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>

Final Pot: $205

[Allinlife]

can't be that bad with that read + 50bb stack

[Big_Jim]

Looks good.

I call with AK.

I've seen this done with AJo and worse from shortie who is possibly tilting. NH

[Woolygimp]

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Looks good.

I call with AK.

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You really call this with AK?
Don't get me wrong based on the results you would have been WAY ahead... I think I need to loosen up alot if that's the case.

[Big_Jim]

I think typical villian, that you describe, has a hand range of about:

A9s+ ATo+ KJs+ KQo 99+ + some even worse hands

(Feel free to dispute this)

Based on a few pokerstovings using the above range, I found:
AKo
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 39.1756 % [ 00.34 00.05 ] { AA-99, AKs-A9s, KQs-KJs, AKo-ATo, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 60.8244 % [ 00.56 00.05 ] { AKo }

QQ
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 35.7790 % [ 00.35 00.01 ] { AA-99, AKs-A9s, KQs-KJs, AKo-ATo, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 64.2210 % [ 00.64 00.01 ] { QQ }


Go much worse than that, and it gets real borderline...
JJ
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 43.1096 % [ 00.42 00.01 ] { AA-99, AKs-A9s, KQs-KJs, AKo-ATo, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 56.8904 % [ 00.56 00.01 ] { JJ }

AQs
equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 44.4713 % [ 00.40 00.05 ] { AA-99, AKs-A9s, KQs-KJs, AKo-ATo, KQo-KJo }
Hand 2: 55.5287 % [ 00.51 00.05 ] { AQs }


Of course, this is hardly entirely accurate, but this is based on my experience on short stacked donkish tilting players.

[Woolygimp]

I'd post the results but I don't think they are relevant or...needed.

[flawless_victory]

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Looks good.

I call with AK.

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You really call this with AK?
Don't get me wrong based on the results you would have been WAY ahead... I think I need to loosen up alot if that's the case.

[/ QUOTE ]this would be an extremely ez call w/ AK.

[BobboFitos]

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Looks good.

I call with AK.

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im a little crazy, but i call quickly

[crosse91]

as do i.
does anyone give most short stacks credit??

[PokerFink]

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as do i.
does anyone give most short stacks credit??

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No. Especially when I think they might be on tilt.

I beat him into the pot with QQ/AK here.

[yvesaint]

50 BBs, AK/QQ is an INSTA-call.

If I've witnessed stupidity from him before, I open up my range to JJ, AQs, possibly TT.