2/4 KK big flop draw

[ryanghall]

Villain is 32/18/10 but that's only after 50 hands.

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SB ($388)
BB ($567.30)
UTG ($248.40)
UTG+1 ($1971.68)
UTG+2 ($748.10)
Hero ($558.10)
MP2 ($396.90)
MP3 ($866.60)
CO ($551.56)
Button ($503.58)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $2.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $45</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Hero calls $29.

Flop: ($96) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

What is hero's line now?

[xorbie]

Bet $50.

[ryanghall]

Do you think this lets off AK (no diamonds) easily? Or are you thinking that hand would raise...

As well, the reason I don't like this is that AA, no diamonds, may very well raise my bet. If they do, they may consider themselves committed to the pot when I push.

However, if I CR all-in, it's WA/WB...

What do you think?

[Raven]

I would bet about 70 $. If he raise I would go all-in most of the time, sometimes just call and open bet the turn all-in just to throw them off.

[ryanghall]

anyone else before i give results?

[Big_Jim]

I like xorbies line. Re-raise all in if he raises.

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.. the reason I don't like this is that AA, no diamonds, may very well raise my bet. If they do, they may consider themselves committed to the pot when I push.

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It's not the end of the world.

Board: 8d 7d 2d
Dead:

equity (%) win (%) / tie (%)

Hand 1: 57.8788 % [ 00.58 00.00 ] { AsAh }
Hand 2: 42.1212 % [ 00.42 00.00 ] { KdKc }

[Woolygimp]

without reading replies jims usually right so i agree with whatever he said...

[ryanghall]

How is this line better than check-raising all-in? It has the added benefit of quite possibly folding out AA, no diamonds, as well as gaining an almost sure bet out of your opponent no matter what he's got.

Ryan

[flawless_victory]

go 4 the checkraise.

[Big_Jim]

Your problem with the line is that it prices in AA no diamond to call, but it also prices KK, QQ and JJ no diamond to call.

Check raise all in he's not folding here.

[Big_Jim]

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without reading replies jims usually right so i agree with whatever he said...

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Finally somebody recognizes my genius. &lt;/end gloat&gt;

preflop.. no reraise? youre not going to have position, find out if your kings are good now. anyone? and after 50 hands hes a little loose, i think i play back.

[ryanghall]

I don't generally like 3-betting KK preflop, except in special circumstances.

It allows the opponent to play perfectly. AA will call/raise, QQ- will fold.

Ryan

[scdavis0]

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Your problem with the line is that it prices in AA no diamond to call, but it also prices KK, QQ and JJ no diamond to call.

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He'd be priced in to calling if he saw hero's actual hand. In reality, hero's actual hand is about the best possible scenaro for black AA on that board and that action.

He isn't priced in to calling against his entire hand range.

[ahnuld]

I CR allin on this flop, since the plan way to cr allin on any flop without an A or Q. This is a very good flop for you.

[ryanghall]

I checked.

Villain bet $80.

I pushed and he folded.

Ryan