$11's KK on scary board (not a beat post)

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

What is your line on flop... turn... river? Anyone able to fold at any point?

Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 8
Seat 4: solnce66 ( $760 )
Seat 3: Dr_Jeckyl_00 ( $690 )
Seat 10: MrMoJoRaisn ( $1685 )
Seat 9: stackes99 ( $400 )
Seat 5: Ddog0013 ( $275 )
Seat 7: shdorne ( $1548 )
Seat 1: will2161 ( $790 )
Seat 2: augerdogg ( $1852 )
Trny:18158058 Level:3
Blinds(25/50)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Dr_Jeckyl_00 [ Kh Ks ]
Dr_Jeckyl_00 raises [150].
solnce66 folds.
Ddog0013 folds.
shdorne folds.
stackes99 folds.
MrMoJoRaisn folds.
will2161 calls [125].
augerdogg folds.
** Dealing Flop ** [ Ad, Ah, 4d ]
will2161 checks.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 checks.
** Dealing Turn ** [ As ]
will2161 bets [50].
Dr_Jeckyl_00 calls [50].
** Dealing River ** [ 6h ]
will2161 is all-In [590]
HERO?
Results in White <font color="white">
Dr_Jeckyl_00 is all-In [490]
will2161 shows [ Kc, Jc ] three of a kind, aces.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 shows [ Kh, Ks ] a full house, Aces full of kings.
will2161 wins 100 chips from side pot #1 with three of a kind, aces.
Dr_Jeckyl_00 wins 1430 chips from the main pot with a full house, Aces full of kings.
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[Shilly]

I push my chips in so fast I get [censored] chipburn.

Edit: On the river.

Sometimes I might just push this PF with my stack at the 11's when UTG. I'll play it just like you did half the time as well. Once the 3rd A hits on the turn I'm probably re-raising all-in his t50 bet since I'm probably going to call any bet on the river.

I think you did fine. After that third ace hits, you know that the probability he has that last ace is close to nill. I'd push it long and I'd push it hard.

[runner4life7]

I'm betting this flop 100% of the time and if he calls im ready to keep firing after this turn card comes up and go broke if so happens.

[RobGW]

I hope you didn't consider folding this. With that said if it were me I would love this flop and especially the turn. I'd want to figure out how to get all the money in. Really no need to raise earlier. You dont want to chase away two broadway cards. Give him the chance to either bluff at it, or let him think his FH is good.

[jeffraider]

I'd bet the flop, and I think pushing preflop is pretty bad.

I don't know if I bet the flop or not, but I re-raise the turn. I'm definately not folding after the turn. Don't be afraid of monsters in the closet.

[11t]

You should check this flop. You are only getting action from an ace. You are either way ahead or way behind so give him some rope and let him hang himself. When you turn the 2nd nuts I also call his bet. Call the river.

Gotta call. I don't think folding the 2nd nuts is +EV.

[gildwulf]

Don't fold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayes'_theorem)

[FlyWf]

That isn't a scary board.

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Don't fold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayes'_theorem)

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That broke my head.

What's the executive summary?

[benza13]

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That isn't a scary board.

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Seriously, the only thing I am afraid of here is not getting all my chips in the middle.

[gildwulf]

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Don't fold (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayes'_theorem)

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That broke my head.

What's the executive summary?

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The point is that when you're trying to figure out a range of hands for your opponent you have to take into account new information, i.e. the fact that only one ace is left in the deck on the turn, when you are figuring the probability he holds an ace. The fact that there are 3 aces on the board means the likelihood of him having an ace is much smaller...i.e. the board isn't scary at all, he has the second nuts and OP should be pushing his chips towards the middle as fast as possible.

[curtains]

This is a reasonable flop to check behind.

Thanks gildwulf. Do you always discount the possibility that someone can hold the fourth card?

[gildwulf]

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Thanks gildwulf. Do you always discount the possibility that someone can hold the fourth card?

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Well, just assume they probably don't and every once and a while you will be unpleasantly surprised:)