Deep 100nl with one crazy villain

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If it needs to be moved feel free.
I played a couple of hands last night with this crazy villain on the party 100nl 6-max, the two of them here being notable.
The first hand was my first confrontation with him and it leads to the second hand:

Hand 1
I have 180 and he covers.
I'm dealt A /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 10 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif UTG and raise 4 villain calls in BB

Flop:(8.5) K /images/graemlins/club.gif K /images/graemlins/diamond.gif J /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

I bet 7 and he calls.

Turn: Q /images/graemlins/diamond.gif

Sweet my first royal. Villain bets 15 and I not having a good royal line min raise to 30 (I know but in this case it worked wonders) he min raises me back to 45 and i call.

River: (~110) J /images/graemlins/heart.gif

He shoves and shows 78off and I take a big pot.

So villain is obviously a pretty bad lag which brings me to the second and not so braggy part of my post.

Hand 2:

He has ~ 200 and I cover.
Pre Flop:
I'm dealt Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif in the small blind. All fold to villain who makes it 3 to go. His standard opener which just means any two. I make it 10 to go he calls and we take it heads up.

Flop:(~20) 10 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif 9 /images/graemlins/club.gif 3 /images/graemlins/heart.gif

I bet 15 and he calls

Turn: (~50) 4 /images/graemlins/club.gif
I bet 35 and he calls

River: (~120) 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif

I check and he shoves for 140 more.

Now I feel like I'm obligated to call this because of the way I played the hand, but is there a better line to be taken, especially on the river, which doesn't put me in such a weird spot. I should note that the only time I saw the villain get out of line before was on hand one and he hadn’t done anything that crazy to others, so I wasn’t sure what to do exactly.

[SmileyEH]

I'd reraise more preflop and bet the pot. If you want to play for your stack bet the turn and CR all in or check/call check/call down, or make a decision on the river to fold. Calling on the end here doesnt look bad either. T9 just got counterfitted too btw, you can definitley call this profitably.

-SmileyEH

[xorbie]

Check the turn against this guy.

How would you recommend proceeding from there.

[xorbie]

It really depends on what he does. I like check/call, check/call though more than pot, pot, call.

[xorbie]

More thoughts on this hand because I feel like it. In a deep stacked, capped buy in game, stack size becomes a huge premium against a bad LAG. The fact of the matter is that he is willing to put in huge chunks of his stack with less than steller holdings, and your goal is simply to force him to do so when you hold a good enough hand to call with.

Allowing pot size to grow when you don't have very strong holdings is now a huge liability, because you end up playing games that you don't wanna play and possibly letting the LAG outplay you, either by bluffing you out of big pots (which he loves to do) or by forcing you to get 200BB in with just a strong pair.

I pretty much insta called this one. Villain showed k7o for no pair no draw and MHIG. I think xorbie brings up a good point about pot control against bad lags though, however when someone is so dedicated to geeting their stack in against you, I don't see much choice in he mater but playing a bit of a guessing game.

[xorbie]

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I pretty much insta called this one. Villain showed k7o for no pair no draw and MHIG. I think xorbie brings up a good point about pot control against bad lags though, however when someone is so dedicated to geeting their stack in against you, I don't see much choice in he mater but playing a bit of a guessing game.

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This guy isn't bad LAG he's totally retarded.

Ya but it was weird cause he only did this against me. Against the rest of the table he was playing pretty well, and wasn't being such a tard.

It seemed like he ran up his stack originally just by playing solid enough poker, and maybe decided to just unload all in my account.

Unfortunately he left soon thereafter

[yvesaint]

turn check is probably best, let him bluff you there and on the river

though the way you played it, river is an insta-call, you now beat a lot more hands, that 4 is great for an overpair

[MTBlue]

doesn't sound like a bad lag. Just sounds like he ran an aggressive bluff putting you on a flush when you minraised the turn. You'd be tough pressed to call there without the pure nuts or something close so its not a bad shove on the end.

If he hasn't gotten out of line except once its a clear fold. I play higher limits usually but when I drop down this is the type of stuff I love to pull. One obvious bad bluff double opponent up then double up and take his stack usually when he has an obvious overpair.

[yvesaint]

dude, hes a bad lag, in the first hand, he mini-re-raised BACK on the turn. what, was he psychic and knew that a J was going to slide off on the river for him to bluff off a flush?

[MTBlue]

lol, at this point the board reads KKdQdJd. If you had a 7 high flush how excited would you be to put money in the middle? If you had KT how excited would you be? I think this is a good board to bluff on some of time especially if you think villain can fold b/c hero can only without read realistically call with JJ+

[MTBlue]

Should have read results.

Stack off everytime

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If he hasn't gotten out of line except once its a clear fold. I play higher limits usually but when I drop down this is the type of stuff I love to pull. One obvious bad bluff double opponent up then double up and take his stack usually when he has an obvious overpair.

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Umm effective stacks in the first hand were 180bb the first hand, and then 200bb in the second. This would be a pretty expensive setup for 20bb.

I do agree that it would be difficult to look him up on hand one without at least JJ but that min reraise is kinda strange/fishy. Not sure what my line would have been with a flush, I definately would not have min raised the turn though to begin with.