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wuwei

12-09-2005, 01:47 PM

No reads that I can recall.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

Button (t1345)
SB (t1415)
Hero (t1600)
UTG (t825)
UTG+1 (t975)
MP1 (t595)
MP2 (t960)
MP3 (t515)
CO (t1770)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
4 folds, MP3 calls t30, 1 fold, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t120) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t120) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t80, MP3 folds, Button calls t80, SB folds.

River: (t280) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t110, Button raises to t220, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t610

Scuba Chuck

12-09-2005, 01:51 PM

This is just me, the awesome play from the blinds guy we all know. Don't you like a check-call line on the river here? Especially if you're going to shovel in 100+ chips anyway? Or, are you thinking it's a blocking bet?

12-09-2005, 01:55 PM

This is a really nice bet by him. I think there are reasons for calling and for folding. I would understand if you did either.

wuwei

12-09-2005, 01:56 PM

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This is just me, the awesome play from the blinds guy we all know. Don't you like a check-call line on the river here? Especially if you're going to shovel in 100+ chips anyway? Or, are you thinking it's a blocking bet?

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My thought at the time was that this river is a value bet. That changed quickly, of course.

gumpzilla

12-09-2005, 01:59 PM

I'm with Scuba, I prefer check-calling the river. I think you can fold to that raise. My guess is you're facing JT or some goofy two pair hand.

wuwei

12-09-2005, 02:09 PM

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I'm with Scuba, I prefer check-calling the river. I think you can fold to that raise. My guess is you're facing JT or some goofy two pair hand.

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I'll elaborate a little more on why I decided to value bet.

Villian checks behind on the flop and then smooth calls the turn with one player left to act. This is consistent with how some people play a monster. It's also consistent with how someone might play a K, a Q, a club draw, any pair with a gutshot.

On the river, no draws got there. I figured that those non-ace pair hands that called the turn want to get to showdown and "keep me honest." They will probably call a small bet. I think the hands that call a small bet are a larger part of his range than the drawing hands.

If I get raised, I'm comfortable letting this go. There's a small risk that my weak river bet induces the raise from a worse hand, but I think this is uncommon by a random $55 player.

wuwei

12-09-2005, 02:37 PM

One more comment on the river fold. I think that most villians who raise here in an attempt to push me off a better hand raise a more than 110.

12-09-2005, 02:41 PM

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One more comment on the river fold. I think that most villians who raise here in an attempt to push me off a better hand raise a more than 110.

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Agreed, i was thinking the same thing. i think the fold is good.

pineapple888

12-09-2005, 02:45 PM

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No reads that I can recall.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t30 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

Button (t1345)
SB (t1415)
Hero (t1600)
UTG (t825)
UTG+1 (t975)
MP1 (t595)
MP2 (t960)
MP3 (t515)
CO (t1770)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
4 folds, MP3 calls t30, 1 fold, Button calls t30, SB completes, Hero checks.

Flop: (t120) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, MP3 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t120) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero bets t80, MP3 folds, Button calls t80, SB folds.

River: (t280) 7/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
Hero bets t110, Button raises to t220, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t610

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I like it, except I'd make a bigger river bet, say 180, to create a more effective block.

derick

12-09-2005, 03:43 PM

Why didn't you bet the flop.
Why give free cards????????????

jeffraider

12-09-2005, 03:44 PM

I think I probably default to a river check-call here but I don't mind your bet at all either especially since you're obviously capable of ditching this hand to heat.

Nice hand!

pineapple888

12-09-2005, 04:18 PM

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Why didn't you bet the flop.
Why give free cards????????????

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OOP on this flop, free cards is the least of your concerns.