Any good books on single table SnGs?

well the title asked it all i guess...
thanks! /images/graemlins/grin.gif

[durron597]

Harrington on Hold 'em is a book about both forms of tournaments. There isn't really one for just SnGs.

[Swedebubba]

HoH hands down

Why doesn't one of the luminaries on this forum write one? I've done a lot of writing/editing if someone wanted me to help with compiling the thing
(pm me). A quality SnG book would sell like crazy. Whether it would make the games harder to beat is another matter....

[wiggs73]

yep, but they don't play on Party in HoH.

Who would be the best one to write this book? I'd be glad to ghostwrite/help edit. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Ya earlier I put up a post in another section saying Sklansky and Malmuth should write a book on that, by the way what's HoH(referenced by Push_Fold in replies to the original post)

I believe HoH refers to Harrington on Holdem.

I'm relatively new to the forum, but the posts of curtains, citanul, durron, irieguy, bones, bluefeet and raptor (obviously not an exhaustive list) all suggest thorough understanding, fantastic results and the rare ability to clearly explain the reasoning behind poker decisions. If we could get 10 of the most respected posters to each submit a long essay followed by a series of illustrative problems, that could be an awesome book. I think people with veteran status should nominate writers and suggest a structure. It might be cool to have a structure like SuperSystem, with specialists in each aspect of the SnG (early, postflop, preflop, bubble, LAG, TAG, heads up, tricky plays, etc.) writing an essay on their specialty. I would be more than happy to edit for grammar and clarity, and to include my (albeit realtively noob) comments on the substance of the essays. If we could convince 2+2 to publish the book -- the lack of a serious SnG book is a serious gap in the 2+2 poker literature -- distribution and sales would be no problem. I guess the big question is whether the posters/players who would write the best essays could be motivated to do so....

This is a terrible idea for everyone that would be wrighting the book.

I think it's -EV.

Yeah, the problem is the only people who would buy the book are the exact people they don't want to buy the book. The $215 world isn't that large.

Yah come to think of it I guess I dont want all the SnG fish to read an exact book teaching them to unfish themselves... But then again, i'm pretty fish to when it comes to the information I could obtain from such a single table book. /images/graemlins/grin.gif I ordered HoH a week ago should be arriving soon but I get the idea its mostly about large tournaments, where the strategies are clearly different than 10 ppl SnGs. The final table of a large tournament is filled with layers who've been playing for a long time and are al in the money, their strategy has to differ with ppl just sitting down and only 3 of them are getting money. I'm a moderate winner at the 33$ level and has yet to get a bankroll to try moving up, but I know there's so much information out there abuot the subject that could help me. Even though I loved Sklansy's books they're all about limit poker. In fact, of all the 10 or so poker books I've read, very few deal with the concept of online 10 men SnGs

HoH has a lot of single table SNG-type situations.

Fish who study poker books: oxymoron.

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HoH has a lot of single table SNG-type situations.

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i love HoH and he does have examples... but i don't know how realistic they are to what we all face every day. it seems like some of the examples just have the wording "one table tournament and it's late......".. i don't think HoH (and as i said, i love it) really captures the essence of SNG's.....

HoH goes from deep stacked, fairly early to very late (heads-up) very fast..... (and before anyone flames, look at the table of contents, and harrington says that the first part of HoH2 is really the end of HoH1 - they just didn't have the space in the first book).

i think there is a huge amount of "meat" in that medium zone where you are moderately pressured by the blinds. it's practically your entire existence in a SNG.

good news for 2plus2, and i think these types of books would sell like crazy. too many bad books out there, and other than miller SSHE, i don't think there's one book that really captures the way alot of people play these days (although in another thread i said online is getting alot tighter)

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Yeah, the problem is the only people who would buy the book are the exact people they don't want to buy the book. The $215 world isn't that large.

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This presumes the average fish could make use of the information in the book to be successful. More likely, they would read the book, think they were suddenly great, go play a $215 and give their money away.

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Fish who study poker books: oxymoron.

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Unless your fish are no longer gamblers, but people like me who are trying to learn and possibly playing above their heads, which it sounds like the $215s may be getting to in off-peak hours.

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This presumes the average fish could make use of the information in the book to be successful. More likely, they would read the book, think they were suddenly great, go play a $215 and give their money away.

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Ha. See my previous post.

Here's the only point I want to make. A great book could be written about how to beat SnGs at all levels. This book doesn't exist. Many, many people would pay good money if it did. If I was beating the high buyins and had thought a lot more about the game, I would write it. Those who are and have, should. I would love to help organize the book, edit the book, get a publisher, and basically be involved in any way I could.

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A great book could be written about how to beat SnGs at all levels.

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Maybe, maybe not. SnGs encompass a wide variety of games, requiring different skills and strategy. I only play at Party and Stars, and I can identify at least half a dozen distinctly different games, all called SnGs (Party 800 chip games, Party 1000 chip games, Stars regular SnGs, Stars turbos, etc.).

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This book doesn't exist.

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It does exist. The only catch is that it is scattered through the threads and archives of this forum.


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Many, many people would pay good money if it did.

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How many? Is there really enough of a market to cover the effort and cost of putting out such a book?

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If I was beating the high buyins and had thought a lot more about the game, I would write it. Those who are and have, should.

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If you were beating the high buyins, you would probably be making more money than you could writing a book. And the player pool at that level is relatively small, so you don't want to give away any secrets. And, as we have all seen, being able to beat the game is no indication that you can teach the game.

Over the years, a number of people have indicated here that they were working on such a book. For whatever reasons, none have done so.