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2+2 wannabe
12-08-2005, 07:12 PM
WTF?!?!? (http://www.pokerrewards.com/test-calc.asp)
darkcore
12-08-2005, 07:21 PM
got the email, too. this is so incredibly effed up.
theblitz
12-08-2005, 07:31 PM
Wonder if this will work on all Prima sites
timprov
12-08-2005, 07:35 PM
That's some pretty wonderful preflop advice they've got there.
They should name Group 6 after Tommy Angelo.
darkcore
12-08-2005, 07:58 PM
damn it. i lost my whole pokerrewards bankroll while playing with this calculator. it sucks. i want my 53 cents back.
I already wrote these guys an e-mail.
Why would a poker room encourage players to fold?
and
How will this improve their amount of rake?
Pure genius.
LotsOfOuts69
12-08-2005, 08:15 PM
Pre Flop Advice
Group Advice
Group 1:
AA KK Reraise
ty poker rewards
BradleyT
12-08-2005, 09:12 PM
Heh, in the e-mail I thought the little animated gif said, "ATTACK!" instead of attach.
2+2 wannabe
12-08-2005, 09:30 PM
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It's another way to describe your hole cards strength. In the book of Hold'em Poker for the Advanced Player by David Sklansky, he divides the starting hands into 9 groups. Group 1 is the strongest, group 9 is the weakest. The calculator uses a modified model that is a bit tighter than the typical Groups but the calculator is aimed at making you a cautious player. See the above table.
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not to be an ass, but can they actually say this?
IggyWH
12-08-2005, 09:36 PM
Wny not? They credit the source.
Kumubou
12-08-2005, 10:22 PM
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I already wrote these guys an e-mail.
Why would a poker room encourage players to fold?
and
How will this improve their amount of rake?
Pure genius.
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It should be pretty clear. If the losing players get better, they will lose fewer bets per hand to the winning players... but the rake per 100 hands does not change (much, there probably is a slight dip as rake thresholds are hit less often), so a bigger percentage of money from the available pool goes to the house.
This is devioushly clever of them. Every player that goes from being a 60% VPIP player to a 40% VPIP player will make the house more money, as the winning players start winning less.
-K
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It should be pretty clear. If the losing players get better, they will lose fewer bets per hand to the winning players... but the rake per 100 hands does not change (much, there probably is a slight dip as rake thresholds are hit less often), so a bigger percentage of money from the available pool goes to the house.
This is devioushly clever of them. Every player that goes from being a 60% VPIP player to a 40% VPIP player will make the house more money, as the winning players start winning less.
-K
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less limps = smaller pots
'nuff said
theblitz
12-09-2005, 01:09 AM
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I already wrote these guys an e-mail.
Why would a poker room encourage players to fold?
and
How will this improve their amount of rake?
Pure genius.
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By evening out th eplaying field money moves around much more.
Since they take a rake each time it is in their interest for the players to be as equal as possible.
In the ideal world, they would love all the players to be exactly the same level. In that case the money just gets passed around with the rake eventually eating up all the money.
BradleyT
12-09-2005, 01:12 AM
Yeah and we all know winning players love to stay at sites without any fish. Empire is doing better than ever.
Im suprised no one has mentioned the fact that they are trying to get players with more than 1 prima account to play at pokerrewards. I have 700 hands left in a bonud there, better clear it before 1/2 turns into a bunch of pros!
MyTurn2Raise
12-09-2005, 02:53 AM
this is so [censored] stupid
Yes, they will get tougher and learn more, but so should you! Career development is part of the picture.
If you are serious about making poker a career, you might want to consider this. Eventually, because poker rooms online have expenses to pay, the game becomes a negative sum game. There has to be new money coming in all the time. Put the emphasis on entertainment money! It is usually not high stakes, or life changing. That money comes from entertaining the weaker player, and making them want to come back and try again because it was "Fun!"
For those who really want to earn a living with poker, we just need to follow some strong business strategies to make sure we can survive when the game does get tougher. We need to consider how to keep our expenses down, and make good investments for the future. This includes family and other forms of entertainment and business. Most of us will find business avenues to ensure the stability of our income when or if poker becomes tougher.
That is the beauty of businesses like online forums and portals. It helps prepare us for other types of work. People with the skills to play and read people in poker, are usually talented people with real world skill...and all this is assuming we don't squander our time or our money at the table. It is a foolish man or woman who takes all their money to the table!
At the point where you really go all-in, with your whole life, you have ceased to be a pro, IMO, and turned into a gambler. The ego rush is greater than the possible reward, but how does it compare to the despair of being broke. Will the world always have another stake for you?
I am not making your decisions for you by any means, but i am surely expressing my own feelings.
timprov
12-09-2005, 11:35 AM
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[ QUOTE ]
I already wrote these guys an e-mail.
Why would a poker room encourage players to fold?
and
How will this improve their amount of rake?
Pure genius.
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It should be pretty clear. If the losing players get better, they will lose fewer bets per hand to the winning players... but the rake per 100 hands does not change (much, there probably is a slight dip as rake thresholds are hit less often), so a bigger percentage of money from the available pool goes to the house.
This is devioushly clever of them. Every player that goes from being a 60% VPIP player to a 40% VPIP player will make the house more money, as the winning players start winning less.
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More importantly, every Poker Rewards player that takes money from other Prima players and thus plays more hands than they would have makes them more money at the expense of the other skins.
fluff
12-09-2005, 12:33 PM
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I already wrote these guys an e-mail.
Why would a poker room encourage players to fold?
and
How will this improve their amount of rake?
Pure genius.
[/ QUOTE ]
By evening out th eplaying field money moves around much more.
Since they take a rake each time it is in their interest for the players to be as equal as possible.
In the ideal world, they would love all the players to be exactly the same level. In that case the money just gets passed around with the rake eventually eating up all the money.
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While it is true that the game could tighten, but the advice that calculator gives is simply horrible. No mention of position, pot size etc. You know what they say about a little knowledge.
Besides, fish want action too. If the pots start getting smaller and folded around a lot, they might just pick up and go to poker rooms with more action.
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