Final Table 50+5 Full Tilt... AK reraised all-in

[polley]

Last night I played in a 50+5 MTT on Full Tilt. 8 players left I am 4th in chips when this hand comes up. (still unable to find a converter for Full Tilt). Haven't seen much of opponents plays up to this point.

Full Tilt Poker Game #325648828: $50 + $5 Tournament (2043255), Table 21 - 1000/2000 Ante 250 - No Limit Hold'em - 22:17:51 ET - 2005/12/07
Seat 1: SKEETER420 (11,504)
Seat 2: SoljaSlim (23,467)
Seat 3: jesoda (8,797)
Seat 4: cormurph53 (51,330)
Seat 5: bigblinger (67,742)
Seat 6: jocard11 (52,638)
Seat 7: SleekGeek (35,528)
Seat 9: CoconutCreek (48,994)
SKEETER420 antes 250
SoljaSlim antes 250
jesoda antes 250
cormurph53 antes 250
bigblinger antes 250
jocard11 antes 250
SleekGeek antes 250
CoconutCreek antes 250
cormurph53 posts the small blind of 1,000
bigblinger posts the big blind of 2,000
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to CoconutCreek [As Kc]
jocard11 folds
SleekGeek raises to 5,000
CoconutCreek raises to 15,000
SKEETER420 folds
SoljaSlim folds
jesoda folds
cormurph53 folds
bigblinger raises to 67,492, and is all in
CoconutCreek……..??

I really didn't know what to think at this point. My thought was about which hands I would push over a raise and a reraise with. AA-QQ, AK maybe.Do I call considering this range of hands?? Is it foolish to put him on such a tight range? Can I muck this? Can I call this? I was definitely confused with what to do next /images/graemlins/confused.gif. What would you do in this position? (8th got 350 i believe and 1st got 2.6k).

--CoconutCreek

[jcm4ccc]

I think in order to call this, you have to be able to put the big stack on AQ (adn preferably AJ), which will offset the AA or KK in the range and make the hand a coin flip. If your range doesn't include AQ, then you are a lot worse than a coin flip. And of course you have no FE.

I think it's doubtful the big stack is making this move with AQ or AJ.

Tough spot, you need to put in approx 30K into what will be a 110K pot. Don't really know would really depend on my read of villian. I really think this is AA/KK a lot, but I'm just getting back into MTT's so I'm interested in what everyone says.

What did Sleekgeek (original raiser) do? If he calls, you're in trouble and I think that folding is a safe bet, but if he folded then I think you're probably up against a coin flip, although sleekgeek could have folded away an ace. It's a good move by chip leader here, puts a lot of pressure on the shorter stacks. For that reason, I could put him on a larger range of hands that if he were playing for his tournament life.

[polley]

sorry erased wha the original raiser did when i copied/pasted... he folded.
--CoconutCreek

I'm a little confused by the HH, so if I get the pot odds wrong, just correct me.

Looks to me like the real pot (i.e. the one you can win) has about 48k in it, and it's costing you 30k to call. That's 1.6:1 and you need 1.57:1 to call to make it +cEV against the range QQ+, AK, which is really close. If he makes this play with JJ, you only need 1.5:1 and the call becomes much easier. If you don't think he can have JJ here, I think a fold is correct due to payout structure considerations.

Readless, call.

[HoldingFolding]

Very tough situation, but since you've made it to the FT surely you have some reads. Was he LAGgy? Could he be doing this with AQ/JJ/TT may be? Would he play AA this way? Lot's of players like to play AK this way simply because they have the mantra of 'must see all five cards' running through their head. Any ideas about your image?

Absent a read I think I call because the only hand you're really scared of is AA and a lot of people would prefer to try to get more value out of that hand in this situation.