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lehighguy
12-08-2005, 07:12 AM
Hero has KJo UTG

BB = $6.

Hero limps, UTG+1 limp, Button limp, sb limp, BB check.

Flop: K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif

Pot: $30
Check to hero, hero bets $25, all fold to BB who calls.

Turn: J/images/graemlins/spade.gif
Pot: $80
BB checks, Hero bets $70, BB calls

River: 7 /images/graemlins/club.gif
Pot: $230
BB checks, Hero bets $125, BB raises to $300, hero ???

lehighguy
12-08-2005, 10:01 AM
THis is 6 max

Hattifnatt
12-08-2005, 10:08 AM
Very read depending. I probably call. Looks much like something like 6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif though...

lehighguy
12-08-2005, 10:24 AM
It was 6s4s.

Though I can't comprehend his call on the flop.

Hattifnatt
12-08-2005, 10:36 AM
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It was 6s4s.

Though I can't comprehend his call on the flop.

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Really not? You didnt include stacksizes but suppose effective stacks are $600. Then I dont blame someone to call with a gutshot+BD flush on the flop for $25. I probably would call there as well in his shoes. Maybe not much EV+ but cannot be much EV- either if it is some implied odds working there.

ahnuld
12-08-2005, 12:05 PM
I pay off becuase ppl make really really dumb bluffs at 6 max, and becuase they make really dumb checkraises when they hit 2 pair.

ex. I flopped a 9 high flush yesterday playing 400 6max, lead every street OOP and got raised on the river. I called, he had made 2 pair. They just dont get it. If you read thomas kellers recent article, they dont get hand values.

lehighguy
12-08-2005, 07:05 PM
Well unless I hit top two, he has no implied odds. I would have shut down after the flop. In fact, I probably would have folded if I had K8 two pair or something.

And if I had a single pair, I just would have checked through.

I guess I just didn't see it comming. I kept looking for how he could have hit a flush or OESD and didn't see it.

BobboFitos
12-08-2005, 07:22 PM
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It was 6s4s.

Though I can't comprehend his call on the flop.

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Really not? You didnt include stacksizes but suppose effective stacks are $600. Then I dont blame someone to call with a gutshot+BD flush on the flop for $25. I probably would call there as well in his shoes. Maybe not much EV+ but cannot be much EV- either if it is some implied odds working there.

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this is a huge leak, and its not close. that is a horrible flop call. do the math.

beset7
12-08-2005, 07:29 PM
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It was 6s4s.

Though I can't comprehend his call on the flop.

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Really not? You didnt include stacksizes but suppose effective stacks are $600. Then I dont blame someone to call with a gutshot+BD flush on the flop for $25. I probably would call there as well in his shoes. Maybe not much EV+ but cannot be much EV- either if it is some implied odds working there.

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this is a huge leak, and its not close. that is a horrible flop call. do the math.

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Excellent point. You simply can't call PSB's on the flop without much much deeper stacks if you have 5 effective outs on the flop. You might be able to raise as a semi-bluff on better boards but this isn't one of them.

Bobbo: clean out your PMs your mailbox is full.

BobboFitos
12-08-2005, 07:29 PM
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Bobbo: clean out your PMs your mailbox is full.

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Sorry, done now. ty for the heads up