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Guruman

12-07-2005, 10:10 PM

I'm about ten hands into this session. A couple of people are showing fishy tendancies, but nothing close to a decent read on anyone yet.

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Preflop: Hero is SB with Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/club.gif.
2 folds, UTG+2 calls, MP1 calls, 3 folds, Button calls $1 (All-In), Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (4.50 SB) A/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif (5 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, Hero raises, BB folds, UTG+2 3-bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

Turn: (6.75 BB) Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif (4 players, 1 all-in)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets, MP1 calls, Hero calls.

River: (9.75 BB) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif (4 players, 1 all-in)
Hero...

flop is questionable, but I have no idea how to play this hand if I lead out and it gets called around.

check/call or bet/fold this river?

Harv72b

12-07-2005, 10:16 PM

check/call the river. You've got a strong enough hand to see showdown (although it's not top two /images/graemlins/wink.gif ), and I think one of 'em finds a reason to bet if you don't lead at it.

Incidentally, I would have either check/called or bet/called the flop; especially if you're up against bad players, at least one of 'em probably has a trash ace. When the queen hit on the turn, I would've led it; the all in player allows me to bail to a raise with clear conscience, unless of course I end up with odds to draw at my four outer.

fluff

12-07-2005, 10:17 PM

You don't have top two.

I would check-fold flop. You have bettor and 1 caller by the time action is back to you, and drawing to very few clean outs in a small pot.

As it was played, probably check-call the river if it is only 1 bet to you.

12-07-2005, 10:31 PM

I don't think I find a raise on this flop. However with the hand being the way it is on the flop, I would check/call the turn and river.

I know that seems awful weak, however you are facing a coordinated and 3/images/graemlins/spade.gif board, and your Q out that you hit, may not have been clean.

Guruman

12-07-2005, 10:40 PM

I edited my title to conceal my idiocy. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Harv: i don't know if the all in player is much of a factor, since he's only in for 1/2 of 1 sb.

fluff: do you always check/fold that flop in an unraised pot? That seems bad.

Harv72b

12-07-2005, 11:12 PM

[ QUOTE ]
Harv: i don't know if the all in player is much of a factor, since he's only in for 1/2 of 1 sb.

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I just meant that I'm guaranteed to see my opponent(s)'s hand, which always makes it easier to fold a good holding.