$109's... Finkerbells

[bigt439]

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (7 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG (t1710)
MP1 (t725)
MP2 (t1625)
Hero (t2110)
Button (t755)
SB (t880)
BB (t2195)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, Button calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t375) 8/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets t200</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1960 (All-In)</font>,

Final Pot: t2535

Kind of a weird hand. I guess I could just bet this flop and fold to a push, but that doesn't seem like any fun. Seems like this is the best way to get chips when I'm ahead, but is this outweighed by the times he's got me?

[Apathy]

I thought they were fivekerbells /images/graemlins/confused.gif

I would just bet 150 on the flop, but I dont hate your line.

[pineapple888]

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I guess I could just bet this flop and fold to a push

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Anything else is FPS.

[Nick M]

I defintely don't raise preflop, but if i did I would bet a flop like this 100% of the time with one caller.

[bigt439]

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I defintely don't raise preflop, but if i did I would bet a flop like this 100% of the time with one caller.

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I raise here every single time. I don't see how you could do anything else.

I also think you guys are underestimating how good this flop is for me. It's not great, but it sure isn't bad.

[tigerite]

Raise pf is mandatory here, especially at a $109. I like your line, but I don't think a check/call and push non-scary turn would be a bad one, either.

I'd want a read on Button before doing this though.

[Nick M]

well thats why i said bet it 100% of the time. I know its good for you.

I play PS turbos, they have more play i guess, I limp here and play for set value. But maybe it's different at party. You have great chip position, so why start raising preflop with a hand that's hard to play postflop like 5s???? Yeah I don't know, just my playing style I guess.

[bigt439]

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You have great chip position, so why start raising preflop with a hand that's hard to play postflop like 5s????

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Because I'm AMAZING. Nah, I'm kidding, I just think it's a very profitable hand to play from there. Plus I'm an aggro bastard; I just can't help myself.

[pineapple888]

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I defintely don't raise preflop, but if i did I would bet a flop like this 100% of the time with one caller.

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I raise here every single time. I don't see how you could do anything else.

I also think you guys are underestimating how good this flop is for me. It's not great, but it sure isn't bad.

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Oh, I don't know, you could limp and play for set value. Just as an example.

Regarding the flop, it's ragged. So it becomes a pissing contest, which I try to avoid with 55.

[bigt439]

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Raise pf is mandatory here, especially at a $109. I like your line, but I don't think a check/call and push non-scary turn would be a bad one, either.

I'd want a read on Button before doing this though.

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Meh. Too much of a guessing game when the pot is too big and he doesn't have enough left. I mean if you wanted to call and push for some other reason, fine, but I don't think I'd do it with the intention of feeling out the turn.

The whole get a read thing would be nice. I know I had one too. I just can't remember what it was.

[mlagoo]

i think if you just never played "for set value" from level 3 on, you would save yourself a fair few chips.

the party structure just doesnt allow for it. also... open limping from the CO with 55 here is... sheesh, really bad. i cant imagine doing it.

[pineapple888]

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i think if you just never played "for set value" from level 3 on, you would save yourself a fair few chips.

the party structure just doesnt allow for it. also... open limping from the CO with 55 here is... sheesh, really bad. i cant imagine doing it.

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Ummm... you and BB both have &gt;40BB. But what do I know...

[Apathy]

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i think if you just never played "for set value" from level 3 on, you would save yourself a fair few chips.

the party structure just doesnt allow for it. also... open limping from the CO with 55 here is... sheesh, really bad. i cant imagine doing it.

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Ummm... you and BB both have &gt;40BB. But what do I know...

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I wouldnt even limp this in a cash game.

[Taraz]

Would everybody be okay with this play if it were in a $55? I normally just lead out the flop and fold to a raise. I guess it leaves me open to bluff-raising, but people fold the flop a lot of the time. I honestly wouldn't think of checkraising here with 55. Maybe 99-JJ though.

[J-Lo]

If they are bluff raising you, they are bluff raising for their entire stack. This is important/beneficial the times u have AQ/AA/KK...

What i want ot know is WHY is this flop good for you? and is the difference between a bet of 150 and 200 significant for the villain to make?

[tewall]

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The whole get a read thing would be nice. I know I had one too. I just can't remember what it was.

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LOL.

[GutPunch]

Pot is at 375 on the flop, btn bets out for 200 of his 605 chipstack which leaves him with 405, and the pot is now 575.
I would think that the btn wouuld be calling your push with anything because his bet seems to commit him to the pot.

I would much rather lead this flop for standard continuation bet and fold to a push.