crazy pineapple question.

[DABANGER]

Here is a question about the game of crazy pineapple. Say for instance the dealer makes a mistake and deals the turn before a player has discarded. Which is the correct thing to do.

Pick up the turn card place in back in the deck and reshuffle and redeal the turn.

Declare the hands dead.

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[Buzz]

"Say for instance the dealer makes a mistake and deals the turn before a player has discarded. Which is the correct thing to do.
Pick up the turn card place in back in the deck and reshuffle and redeal the turn.
Declare the hands dead."

Dabanger - In a casino, the floorperson is called. I think what is done depends on whose mistake it was. If the player is a fault, then his/her hand is declared dead.

But if the dealer is at fault, there is an effort to keep the actual cards which were to become the board as much as possible as they were before the snafu. To immediately shuffle the improperly turned card back into the deck would possibly change two cards on the board. Accordingly, when the mistake is made on the turn, the card that was improperly turned over as the turn card is temporarily put aside and the river card is dealt as the turn card (burn and turn). Then the card that was improperly turned is shuffled back into the remaining cards, a card is burned, and a new river card is turned, with the card that was improperly turned having a chance of becoming the river card. In that way, only one card that was originally in order to become one of the board cards is (possibly) different.

I'm not a rules expert, but, as I recall, that's how I've seen the situation handled in a casino. No guarantee all casinos handle it the same, or even that all floorpeople within a particular casino handle it the same.

Rick Nebiolo is a floorman at the Bicycle club in the Los Angeles area and would know the answer. Maybe he'll give us the true ruling.

Buzz

[Easy E]

...where the card would be reshuffled in and redealt?

Lemme go back and reread the long reply.

[Easy E]

Dabanger - In a casino, the floorperson is called. I think what is done depends on whose mistake it was. If the player is a fault, then his/her hand is declared dead.

Buzz, if the player is at fault for not dumping his card (I assume when everyone else has?), you mean? I assume so...

But if the dealer is at fault, there is an effort to keep the actual cards which were to become the board as much as possible as they were before the snafu. To immediately shuffle the improperly turned card back into the deck would possibly change two cards on the board. Accordingly, when the mistake is made on the turn, the card that was improperly turned over as the turn card is temporarily put aside and the river card is dealt as the turn card (burn and turn). Then the card that was improperly turned is shuffled back into the remaining cards, a card is burned, and a new river card is turned, with the card that was improperly turned having a chance of becoming the river card. In that way, only one card that was originally in order to become one of the board cards is (possibly) different.

Hmmmmm.... is that for all of the morons who think the order of the cards is magical? It IS an elegant way to do it... but I could see people moaning about the river card coming "early" and changing the hand too...

Thanks, Buzz. We'll see if Rick chimes in with the LA rules...

[Buzz]

"Buzz, if the player is at fault for not dumping his card (I assume when everyone else has?), you mean?"

Easy - Yes.

"Hmmmmm.... is that for all of the morons who think the order of the cards is magical?"

I think so.

"... but I could see people moaning about the river card coming "early" and changing the hand too..."

I agree. Once the dealer makes an error by exposing a card too soon, it's even more difficult than usual to satisfy everyone - but a good floor-person usually gives it (satisfying everyone) a noble effort.

Buzz

[cferejohn]

I've only been in one place that spread pineapple (the Nugget in Incline Village - North Lake Tahoe). Their rule was "It is the player's responsibility to discard their extra card before the turn. If the player fails to do so, the hand is dead." Now, the dealers were pretty good about reminding players to do so, but they also made it clear to every new player as they sat down that it was, in the end, their own responsibility.