$11: my "sneaky" JJ in lvl 1

[liucipher]

I just started 4-tabling (got a new monitor). I've been trying to push "smaller edges" blah blah blah. Mainly I just find it distracting to play hands that I might be able to take down pre-flop.

Given the smallish raise and the dead money created by the two weak calls, anybody take the same line? Or is this just absolutely unforgivable?

I'm only behind 4 hands and there's t220 in dead chips if I can isolate heads up.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

SB (t680)
BB (t785)
UTG (t940)
UTG+1 (t1660)
Hero (t785)
MP2 (t775)
MP3 (t840)
CO (t830)
Button (t705)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
UTG calls t15, UTG+1 calls t15, Hero calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t65</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, UTG calls t50, UTG+1 calls t50, Hero pushes.

[splashpot]

I do this a lot.

[jeffraider]

Looks just fine. I've grown out of limping JJ so I'd be raising it here, but I like it! I'm definitely pushing when it gets back to me after that action.

[playtitleist]

Meh. What are the chances you are facing two overs? I've done it. I've passed on it. My play nowadays is to call and see the flop. It's LVL1 and I can look for better spots later.

I don't fault the play though, I think it is +EV.

[pineapple888]

Edit: *Oh, shnap, just realized this was the 11s. Yeah, a push looks good here. I'll leave my earlier reasoning below for higher buyins.*

Marginal. Personally, I just play for set/overpair value with so many others interested. That's how you can really gather up some chips.

That whole "I'm only behind 4 hands" is highly misleading, because you are *way* behind those hands, and only slightly ahead of the other hands that will call you (unless somebody's a total donk, which is possible).

So, it's not outright bad, but I rarely do it. For whatever that's worth.

[11t]

I like it but don't be surprised if AK calls you here.

[junkmail3]

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I like it but don't be surprised if AK calls you here.

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There is enough dead money in the pot to take care of that scenario though.

And besides, AK never hits!

[pineapple888]

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I like it but don't be surprised if AK calls you here.

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There is enough dead money in the pot to take care of that scenario though.

And besides, AK never hits!

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No sht. Missed 11 times in a row with it earlier this week, and that was *before* my 20-buyin downswing.

[tigerite]

You haven't been playing against me then, I think I lost about 5 55/45's in a row today. Or more. I kinda stopped counting to be honest.

[pineapple888]

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You haven't been playing against me then, I think I lost about 5 55/45's in a row today. Or more. I kinda stopped counting to be honest.

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Well, 5 in a row of those happens every day to me. Now 5 80/20s, that might get my attention.