Trip Q's what to bet on turn

[maranello11]

Playing 2/4 NL on Party. Have been at table for about half an hour. Have shown down one hand for win, and taken some decent pots with a bet. Villian nothing out of control, I probably have not been paying enough attention to the table, playing other tables as well.

I have $450 and cover Villian

Hero in big blind and dealt: Q /images/graemlins/club.gif9 /images/graemlins/club.gif

One limper, villian completes, I check.

Flop 10 /images/graemlins/diamond.gifQ /images/graemlins/diamond.gifQ /images/graemlins/heart.gif

Villian bets $10, I call, limper folds.

Turn: 5 /images/graemlins/heart.gif Villian bets $30

I am 95% sure he has a Q, hopefully a smaller one and has not filled up yet. What should I raise here and if he pushes turn, is this an easy call?

[Hattifnatt]

Raise the flop.

As played, just call turn and reevaluate on the river.

[Ghazban]

I wouldn't raise at all if I didn't know what I was going to do if he pushed. How can you be so sure he has a queen but so unsure of what a push means?

[maranello11]

I just have a strong feeling he has a Q, what else comes out betting like this in the small blind with no pre-flop raise. I dont think he is trying to steal the pot either. He could have a monster draw. So no raise on turn, I dont like raise on flop.

[Hattifnatt]

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I dont like raise on flop.

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Why not?

[maranello11]

It allows weaker Q's to get off their hand later on and stronger ones to suck me in for a large chunk of change.

[Hattifnatt]

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It allows weaker Q's to get off their hand later on and stronger ones to suck me in for a large chunk of change.

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Really? If he 3-bet you can fold. If he fold a draw its fine for you. If he just call you can check behind on the turn.

[maranello11]

I see what you are saying, but based on this hand do you raise turn or just call.

[Hattifnatt]

I just call (see my first reply).

[maranello11]

Oh yeah, sorry. Ok I raised to 60, dumb minraise I know. he called.
River was a offsuit 4. What do you bet here and why? I know if I was going to raise turn I should have made it 90, but i didnt

[98romaine]

Disagree weaker Q's fold to a flop raise or turn raise. You have position use it.

[maranello11]

Thats what I said, but he disagrees

[98romaine]

Bet river, 1/2 pot $75, fold to a push.

[Hattifnatt]

1/3-1/2 pot or so and fold to a push. Nothing very wrong to just check behind either.

[98romaine]

By not raising flop you are letting him take the control of the hand, how are so sure he has a Q, and if so it's better than yours? I think the best line is using your position putting pressure on your opponent to make a decision and help you gain info on the strenght of his hand. Your line is passive.

[maranello11]

Romaine, if you were check raised on turn, would you lay down?

[98romaine]

Depends on the amount of the CR and my read/past encounters with villian. IF he CR my stack, it is really tough decision, probably fold and live to fight another day.

[greygoo]

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It allows weaker Q's to get off their hand later on and stronger ones to suck me in for a large chunk of change.

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So you think your opponent is limping with the hand like Q6 from the small blind, but at the same time is capable of letting it go, when flopping trip queens. I have yet to meet someone like that...

Actually, I think a 10 does with a lot of villians. In fact, a lot of Queens try to slow play this (even with such a dinky pot - weird).

A decent Villian probably bets this out, especially if he suspects that you don't believe him.

[ninjia3x]

I prob make a raise rite about now.

[Big_Jim]

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I am 95% sure he has a Q

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What worse queens is villian limping with?

If this read is indeed accurate, this looks like an easy fold.