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Peter
12-07-2005, 10:36 AM
Opponent is 56/181.5 over 223 hands. Standard?

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Preflop: Peter is Button with J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Peter 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, MP calls.

Flop: (9.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, MP checks, <font color="#CC3333">Peter bets</font>, BB calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Peter 3-bets</font>, BB folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP caps</font>, Peter calls.

Turn: (9.25 BB) K/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Peter calls.

River: (11.25 BB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">MP bets</font>, Peter calls.

Final Pot: 13.25 BB
Spicymoose
12-07-2005, 10:40 AM
His hand looks like either 66, 44, A6, or an agressively played A9-AT. I think you are beat more often than not, so I like the call down.

I might just call the flop raise though, so that I can pop him on the turn.
Peter
12-07-2005, 11:00 AM
If BB would have folded already I would have called the flop raise and raised the turn.
You fold if MP then 3bets the turn?
Spicymoose
12-07-2005, 11:03 AM
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If BB would have folded already I would have called the flop raise and raised the turn.
You fold if MP then 3bets the turn?

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Nope. He is agressive, could have a worse A, or could be semibluffing the flush. We also have outs when behind.
12-07-2005, 11:29 AM
I like your line for the most part, but you have to hope he is overplaying his hand, which a player like this will often do. Keep in mind even a maniac/moron can land a big hand every once in a while, even though its very difficult to give him credit for it.
MyssGuy
12-07-2005, 02:04 PM
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I might just call the flop raise though, so that I can pop him on the turn.

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I don't like this since he's just c/r a two other players. I go into call down at this point. Too weak?
Zygote
12-07-2005, 02:13 PM
you played fine.
Spicymoose
12-07-2005, 02:47 PM
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I might just call the flop raise though, so that I can pop him on the turn.

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I don't like this since he's just c/r a two other players. I go into call down at this point. Too weak?

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Yes. A check raise here does not always mean we are beat at all. It could be a flush draw, or a worse pair. If you don't feel comfortable raising the turn, at least 3-bet the flop.
ArturiusX
12-07-2005, 05:04 PM
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If BB would have folded already I would have called the flop raise and raised the turn.
You fold if MP then 3bets the turn?

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Don't look for folds with TPGK ever. Its a leak. See the showdown, the payoffs virtually the same.
12-07-2005, 05:25 PM
That's my line. I pray to see A9 or AT, or maybe AJ, but I expect to lose. However, I expect to be good enough times to call down. Can't be folding TPGK regularly just because a guy seems overly frisky.

Sometimes, players will go bonkers on us with top pair in frustration over previous hands.