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Ryan11
12-07-2005, 03:37 AM
Button: 40/21/1.89
SB: 75/46/2.3 a complete maniac
MP: 18/7.9/1.74

After not folding preflop is this a standard line? What about when it's 2 back to me on the turn? I guess the pot is way to big to fold for 1 bet on the river.

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. CO posts a blind of $10.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, MP calls, Button calls.

Flop: (17 SB) 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP folds, <font color="#CC3333">Button 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB caps</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Turn: (13.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

River: (22.50 BB) A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls, Button calls.

Final Pot: 25.50 BB
Kakafoni
12-07-2005, 08:27 AM
Even with a pot as big as this one, I can't see any EV in calling the river.
Ryan11
12-07-2005, 12:19 PM
look at the stats for SB. I don't think I could lay it down getting 23.5 to 1
12-07-2005, 01:12 PM
calling the turn 3 bet is what really sucks...
ur smoked and calling 3?
Zygote
12-07-2005, 02:25 PM
you should call the flop and hope to raise SB on the turn. the pot is too large for you to protect your hand on the flop.
Zygote
12-07-2005, 02:27 PM
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Even with a pot as big as this one, I can't see any EV in calling the river.

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you really need to reevaluate some fundamental parts of your game then.
Ryan11
12-07-2005, 03:13 PM
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calling the turn 3 bet is what really sucks...
ur smoked and calling 3?

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It's only 2 back to me and I have a gutshot, and my other 2 set outs, with the very very small possibilty of having the best hand. I don't think I can fold here.
aba20
12-07-2005, 03:37 PM
I fold the turn. Could be capped by the crazy small blind, and you could easily be drawing at two outs.
Ryan11
12-07-2005, 04:29 PM
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I fold the turn. Could be capped by the crazy small blind, and you could easily be drawing at two outs.

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why do you figure I could possibly have only 2 outs? I figure the 6 for the 4 8s and 2 9s.
ddubois
12-07-2005, 04:55 PM
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Even with a pot as big as this one, I can't see any EV in calling the river.

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you really need to reevaluate some fundamental parts of your game then.

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I'm not sure what you are trying to say, but it sounds needlessly insulting. You are not winning this river 1 in 25 times, nor even 1 in 100 times. Are you hoping SB and Button both have 88? The EV of this river call may be as close to -1 BB as I've ever seen posted.
ArturiusX
12-07-2005, 04:58 PM
I think I can fold the turn the first time around.
Jules22
12-07-2005, 07:15 PM
is folding preflop bad? i would fold preflop here but im terrible

edit nevermind just looked at stats i wouldnt fold preflop either