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ArchonsEngine
12-07-2005, 01:20 AM
This is the first hand I've played and about the 5th hand overall. The only "useful" info is that BB has opened with a minbet on the flop every hand he's played.

I hit my set, but the board's a bit scarier than I'd like. What's my line here? What do I do if a scare card (club, 3, or 7) comes? I'll add more of the hand after seeing what people have to say.

Any advice would be appreciated.

--ArchonsEngine



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SB (t805)
BB (t445)
UTG+1 (t730)
Hero (t800)
MP2 (t725)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, Hero calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t72.50) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t15</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, Hero ?????

pergesu
12-07-2005, 01:28 AM
Jack it up pimp daddy. Make those sucks PAY ya heard

ArchonsEngine
12-07-2005, 01:32 AM
I figured I should raise, but how much? Also, what's my response to a big reraise?

--ArchonsEngine

pergesu
12-07-2005, 01:34 AM
I'd make it 120 and then shove over a reraise. If he has 32, 73, or 87 so be it. At an 11 you have to be happy to get your money in with a set on a draw-heavy board. Plus even if you are behind to a lame hand, you can fill up and pwn. That's what I would do, at least.

mlagoo
12-07-2005, 01:39 AM
i'd raise to about 100, and push over any reraise. i could get cheeky and call the flop and try to get all the chips in on the turn, but, meh. charge em while they're willing to pay.

ArchonsEngine
12-07-2005, 01:44 AM
Okay, I can see that. I raised a little smaller hoping not to scare everyone away.

My thoughts on the rest of the hand are in blue. Does that look reasonable, or should I have been less scared of the draws?




Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, Hero calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t72.50) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 6/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets t15</font>, UTG+1 calls t15, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t80</font>, MP2 folds, SB calls t80, BB folds, UTG+1 folds.

Turn: (t262.50) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

<font color="blue">Well, that blows. I need to find out where I am though, plus I can't let him draw for free in case he's got a single club or a straight draw, so a I'll bet a bit more than 1/2 pot. I really don't know what to do if he pushes, though.</font>

SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t150</font>, SB calls t150.

<font color="blue">Okay, he's either got a made hand weaker than mine (or a very unlikely 66) or he's still drawing. Check behind on a scare card, bet a brick.</font>


River: (t562.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

<font color="blue">Well, the other draw got there, so let's take the free showdown.</font>

SB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t562.50

mlagoo
12-07-2005, 01:48 AM
i would also bet a bit more on the turn. i'm also checking through this river.

tewall
12-07-2005, 01:50 AM
Raising the pot is rarely bad. That's a good place to start if you don't know how much to raise.

You're very happy to get all-in on the flop. Most of the time, someone will be pushing a draw. You have a decent chance of improving even if you're behind (a about 1 in 3).

ArchonsEngine
12-07-2005, 01:56 AM
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i would also bet a bit more on the turn.

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I'm guessing if he pushes in response, I should just whine about it and call, right?


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i'm also checking through this river.

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Yeah, that's about the only part of the postflop I'm comfortable with. I just felt a bit lost on this one.

mlagoo
12-07-2005, 02:04 AM
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i would also bet a bit more on the turn.

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I'm guessing if he pushes in response, I should just whine about it and call, right?

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i think so, because of the chances he could be on a pair and a flush draw, two pair, etc., and because in the event that he does have a made hand, you've still got 10 outs to improve. i mean, this is all just rehashing basic stuff. i can see why you dont like the situation.

ArchonsEngine
12-07-2005, 02:14 AM
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i mean, this is all just rehashing basic stuff. i can see why you dont like the situation.

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Point taken. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

I'm coming off a long break on a bit of a downswing, so I'm trying to go back to basics. I've been looking over hands that confused me and trying to find mistakes. This hand just didn't feel right (even before villain showed A9o with the ace of clubs and MHIG) and it looks like the main problem was underbetting the hand.

Thanks to you and pergesu for the helpful feedback.

--ArchonsEngine