Forgetting which game I'm playing

[Entity]

3-handed. From what I remember villain is kinda loose and aggressive but we've been mostly tangling HU so it's easy for me to have that image of him at this point.

Folded to me OTB, I raise A/images/graemlins/club.gif2/images/graemlins/club.gif. Villain calls in BB.

Flop is 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif4/images/graemlins/heart.gif2/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. He checks, I bet, he raises, I 3-bet, he caps.

Turn 8/images/graemlins/club.gif. Bet-call.

River Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. Bet-call.

[jt1]

I don't like it, because, I don't think AK plays this way. I think AK 3 bets preflop and/or slows down, at least, by the river.

I think once he caps then you can fold the turn UI.
Unless you know something you're not telling us.

[Wynton]

I think I'd rather you raise the turn, and then fold if he bets/raises again.

Of course, if it was me, I'd probably have simply called his raise on the flop and c/f the turn.

[Entity]

I don't know why you're mentioning AK here. What's a general handrange for a 842hh flop checkraise+turn bet by a loose aggressive player?

Rob

[Entity]

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I think I'd rather you raise the turn, and then fold if he bets/raises again.

Of course, if it was me, I'd probably have simply called his raise on the flop and c/f the turn.

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What's a range you're putting a LAG on for checkraising this flop and betting the turn?

Rob

[DMBFan23]

I'd put A high in the range you specified, but not in the range that checkraises, caps, and then leads. I'd say {a pair or flush draw} is a wide range for that.

[Entity]

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I'd put A high in the range you specified, but not in the range that checkraises, caps, and then leads. I'd say {a pair or flush draw} is a wide range for that.

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My guesstimated range was something like 65s, occasional but rare 2's, occasional 4's, pairs 55-77, 8's, hearts, and air. Something like 76s a certain amount of the time as well.

Rob

[SlantNGo]

Why not just call down to the flop c/r? Must you get that extra bet in on the flop?

[adsman]

From memory Peter Rus had a post a while back about what LAG's bets mean on each street. A flop cap meant a strong draw or pair, I think. Betting the Turn falls into that line. LAG's hate checking the river when they miss. I like the hand.

[ArturiusX]

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From memory Peter Rus had a post a while back about what LAG's bets mean on each street. A flop cap meant a strong draw or pair, I think. Betting the Turn falls into that line. LAG's hate checking the river when they miss. I like the hand.

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Depends HUGELY on his opinion of Entity.

[KDawgCometh]

ent, HU here I'm also calling with any piece of the board here too. Given you're read I like how you played it. Granted it may bea leak of mine, but this seems like a good situation for the line you took

[KDawgCometh]

I think that AKs here plays it the same way. for one, AKs might very well be the best hand, and if not, then they have a butt load of outs against a random paired hand here, and have FE

[spydog]

I don't see the point in 3-betting this flop. If he has a flush draw then he also has 2 overcards, making his equity nearly as strong as yours on this flop. If he has a pocket pair or paired up from the board then you have little equity and are pissing away bets. If you think he's on a flush draw then call the flop CR and raise a non-heart turn. However, with the board pairing on the turn I would just call again. River call is fine.

[jt1]

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I don't know why you're mentioning AK here. What's a general handrange for a 842hh flop checkraise+turn bet by a loose aggressive player?



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You didn't seem convinced that he was a LAG. Against a true LAG then I like calling the 3 bet and calling down.

[Wynton]

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I think I'd rather you raise the turn, and then fold if he bets/raises again.

Of course, if it was me, I'd probably have simply called his raise on the flop and c/f the turn.

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What's a range you're putting a LAG on for checkraising this flop and betting the turn?

Rob

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Just to be clear, I wasn't suggesting capping the flop and raising the turn, but alternatively just calling the flop bet and then raising the turn. Either way, I think the opponent's range is quite large.

[car ramrod]

I think villian could check/raise the flop w/ /images/graemlins/heart.gif's, a 4, a 2, an 8, any small pp, or even A hi. His range is pretty wide in teh BB, but when he caps, I'm thinking more /images/graemlins/heart.gif's or a pair.
He bets the turn, still maybe a pair, he prolly still bets a flush draw.

What about popping the turn again?

or did you just want to get to showdown cheaply?

what hands do you put him on, do you think he could bluff cap the flop w/ nothing?

[TomBrooks]

FLOP: I would just call the flop checkraise getting 7:1.

TURN: I would fold the turn getting 4:1. You have a pair of twos. You're probably behind. You will probably have to call another bet on the river to see a showdown.

RIVER: If I had decided to continue to the river with the hope BB would check or I would improve, unless I know BB to be the type that will cap a flop and bet out every big street without at least a pair, I would be inclined to fold when he bets again. I would also consider if BB thinks I would call a river bet in a situation like this without at least a pair. The problem is you now only need to pick off a bluff only one in 7 times to break even, so a call wouldn't be too bad. I usually rather save two bets and fold the turn.

[Entity]

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I usually rather save two bets and fold the turn.

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You're only saving two bets when you're behind.

Rob