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Taraz
12-05-2005, 08:53 PM
Is this a bad push?

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

CO (t1040)
Button (t2027)
SB (t1525)
BB (t530)
UTG (t1438)
UTG+1 (t915)
MP1 (t1070)
MP2 (t680)
Hero (t775)

Preflop: Hero is MP3 with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t125</font>, CO calls t125, Button calls t125, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t450) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333"> Hero bets all-in t650

tigerite
12-05-2005, 08:54 PM
I think it's fine but a bit read dependent on the two callers.

12-05-2005, 08:54 PM
Taraz,

&lt;----------- ur the guy on the left

jeffraider
12-05-2005, 08:57 PM
Make it 150 preflop and I think pushing is okay, but check-calling/raising all-in is maybe a bit better. You can't get either one to fold a Jack, so maybe snag a bit of value from bluffs/middle pairs?

Taraz
12-05-2005, 09:07 PM
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I think it's fine but a bit read dependent on the two callers.

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CO was relatively solid, the other player was a typical player.

Taraz
12-05-2005, 09:07 PM
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Make it 150 preflop and I think pushing is okay, but check-calling/raising all-in is maybe a bit better. You can't get either one to fold a Jack, so maybe snag a bit of value from bluffs/middle pairs?

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What if they check behind though? I really don't wanna see another overcard on the turn.

jeffraider
12-05-2005, 09:09 PM
Hey what's the deal with making it 125 in L3 in $55s BTW? I keep seeing $55ers doing this and then posting very interesting postflop hands against like 3-5 opponents.

jeffraider
12-05-2005, 09:10 PM
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Make it 150 preflop and I think pushing is okay, but check-calling/raising all-in is maybe a bit better. You can't get either one to fold a Jack, so maybe snag a bit of value from bluffs/middle pairs?

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What if they check behind though? I really don't wanna see another overcard on the turn.

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That would be a nightmare for your hand and I'd be forced to check-fold from that spot, but I think you've gotta take your chance to get some value from the hand. I wonder if leading out for 250 has any value. . .

Taraz
12-05-2005, 09:15 PM
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Hey what's the deal with making it 125 in L3 in $55s BTW? I keep seeing $55ers doing this and then posting very interesting postflop hands against like 3-5 opponents.

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I think the basic idea is that not many people are gonna call a raise to 125 but fold for 150. If that is true there are lots of benefits: You invest less chips in case you end up folding, the pot is smaller making post flop easier to play, c-bets cost fewer chips, etc.

tigerite
12-05-2005, 09:15 PM
I used to make it t125 a long long time ago. I then experimented with t150 for a while. It's now at t175.

Taraz
12-05-2005, 09:16 PM
Why did you decide to increase your raise size? Were you getting too many callers?

tigerite
12-05-2005, 09:25 PM
I don't know really - just adjusting. At the $109s it seems it is a standard raise at t50 level. I never see anyone raise to t125, and seeing t150 is also pretty rare.

player1
12-06-2005, 10:42 AM
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I don't know really - just adjusting. At the $109s it seems it is a standard raise at t50 level. I never see anyone raise to t125, and seeing t150 is also pretty rare.

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the standard 3x raise is so common. so, is there some benefit in raising a slightly different amount like 175 or 275/325 if BB=100? i'm trying to give the impression that my hand is not just a typical raising hand, but a different (stronger) hand.