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12-05-2005, 05:05 PM

Should I check behind or pop him with another bet?

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t20 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

SB (t1440)
BB (t1200)
UTG (t1140)
Hero (t1860)
MP1 (t1870)
MP2 (t1470)
MP3 (t1570)
CO (t1510)
Button (t1440)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
1 fold, Hero calls t20, 5 folds, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t60) 8/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets t60, SB folds, BB calls t60.

Turn: (t180) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets t150, BB calls t150.

River: (t480) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Final Pot: t480
Main Pot: t480 (t480), between BB and Hero.

citanul

12-05-2005, 05:14 PM

dude. check.

bluefeet

12-05-2005, 05:14 PM

I check behind. An Ace might lead, or raise the flop. An 8/7 would give on the turn.
FD is certainly reasonable - which of course he's not folding. nh

12-05-2005, 05:15 PM

yeah... i check behind too.... also a 4-straight on board.

citanul

12-05-2005, 05:18 PM

also:

defn: value bet (val-U b-et) - english - origins unknown:

a bet with positive expectation in instances when called.

this does not appear to be one.

12-05-2005, 05:22 PM

Right. Easy question I guess. Villian showed A-6o so I was questioning it.

grayhawk

12-05-2005, 07:36 PM

Just curious - what percentage of the time are you limping 99 from 2nd position?

pineapple888

12-05-2005, 07:38 PM

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Just curious - what percentage of the time are you limping 99 from 2nd position?

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At these blinds? Probably close to 100%.

grayhawk

12-05-2005, 07:58 PM

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Just curious - what percentage of the time are you limping 99 from 2nd position?

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At these blinds? Probably close to 100%.

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Interesting. You're not concerned with encouraging hands like Ax, KXs, KJ, KT, QJ, QT, JT to limp? There may be some pretty good odds for marginal hands with overcards to get in the pot with you, especially if 3rd position limps too. I would think 99 would be at least 50/50 call/raise here. Hope I'm not hijacking the thread - I think the poster's original question got answered.

pineapple888

12-05-2005, 08:10 PM

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Just curious - what percentage of the time are you limping 99 from 2nd position?

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At these blinds? Probably close to 100%.

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Interesting. You're not concerned with encouraging hands like Ax, KXs, KJ, KT, QJ, QT, JT to limp? There may be some pretty good odds for marginal hands with overcards to get in the pot with you, especially if 3rd position limps too. I would think 99 would be at least 50/50 call/raise here. Hope I'm not hijacking the thread - I think the poster's original question got answered.

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I play 99 purely for set value in EP in the early levels, so I want limpers. I might open raise around back. Can't say this is "right", it's just what I've found works best for me.

tigerite

12-05-2005, 09:43 PM

Even I don't raise 99 in EP and I'm quite aggressive preflop these days.

I might well raise TT here for instance..