L1: AK all-in!

[David BB]

Just wondering what you guys think about this one. A few hands into a 33$ SnG at Multipoker (former party skin).


15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) Table Table 11105 (Real Money) -- Seat 4 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: knodden76 (730)
Seat 2: toddbshaw37 (1290)
Seat 3: rvernon2222 (880)
Seat 4: AFAHMASP (975)
Seat 5: HERO (785)
Seat 6: TBoneSteak (540)
Seat 7: wiz2122 (730)
Seat 8: MuskieDude (570)
Seat 9: oxyjon (775)
Seat 10: radiotto (725)
HERO posts small blind (10)
TBoneSteak posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Ad, Kc ]
wiz2122 calls (15)
MuskieDude folds.
oxyjon folds.
radiotto raises (45) to 45
knodden76 calls (45)
toddbshaw37 calls (45)
rvernon2222 calls (45)
AFAHMASP folds.
HERO raises (775) to 785
HERO is all-In.

[bestcellar]

I don't like it. You want an AJ or an AT coming along with you, and they are going to laydown to an all-in. Conceivably AQ would call, but if I had AQ facing a raise all in I wouldn't call it this early.

Conversely, the only hands that usually would call you are annoying races like 77-QQ. Why risk all your chips on a race at this stage?

I reraise to 250.

[tigerite]

I think it's actually okay..

[gumpzilla]

Eh, I like pushing if you're going to raise at all. Betting 250 will still scare out lots of hands while leaving you with a heavily inflated pot whenever you whiff.

I would usually just call here and play very straightforwardly, playing hard if I hit and not putting any more money in the pot if I whiffed. I think pushing is fine, too; there's enough dead money in there to not make you too unhappy when you're up against 88 at the end of the day.

i respect the play too, and chances are you're not getting a caller, but if you do, you're probably racing.

question is, at this stage in the tournament, how many callers ahead are necessary to justify a push with AK?

I'd do it.

[gisb0rne]

I went all-in with AKo at lvl 1 yesterday (first in too!) on PStars $27. Got called by AA in the BB and I sucked out. That's the first time I've ever done that and I hope I never do it again.

[samr]

I like it.

[KingDan]

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I went all-in with AKo at lvl 1 yesterday (first in too!) on PStars $27. Got called by AA in the BB and I sucked out. That's the first time I've ever done that and I hope I never do it again.

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If that doesn't determine whether a play is +EV I don't know what will.

OP: I like it.

[Sciolist]

This is a play that I basically never make. I can see the reasoning, especially when there're three straight (!) callers to the 3x MP raise. I think that a lot of people really over use the preflop push allin in these early levels, but I think it's probably right here. My normal play is to just call and see what happens, but on reflection I think that's pretty horrible :]

[microbet]

I like it. The problem with calling is that so many people seeing the flop gives you very bad reverse implied odds if you hit the A or K.

[gumpzilla]

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The problem with calling is that so many people seeing the flop gives you very bad reverse implied odds if you hit the A or K.

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You don't think AT or KQ (or A5 and K7, for that matter) are frequently paying you off handsomely here?

[adanthar]

I would do this OOP with this pot size roughly 100% of the time.

edit: this is partly because A9o occasionally calls.

[skipperbob]

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I would do this OOP with this pot size roughly 100% of the time.

edit: this is partly because A9o occasionally calls.

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One reason I don't like it; likely caller = mid-pairs & all your A's & K's are taken /images/graemlins/frown.gif