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lmw

12-05-2005, 12:24 AM

first orbit at table. Should i have reraised the flop?

Ultimate Bet No-Limit Hold'em, $.50 BB (10 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

UTG ($20.50)
UTG+1 ($17)
UTG+2 ($48.15)
MP1 ($41.40)
MP2 ($65.90)
MP3 ($17.55)
CO ($38.30)
Hero ($48)
SB ($13.75)
BB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
1 fold, UTG+1 calls $0.50, UTG+2 raises to $2.25, 2 folds, MP3 calls $2.25, 1 fold, Hero calls $2.25, 2 folds, UTG+1 folds.

Flop: ($8) J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 4/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 6/images/graemlins/heart.gif (3 players)
UTG+2 bets $8, MP3 folds, Hero calls $8.

Turn: ($24) 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)
UTG+2 bets $24, Hero bets $24, UTG+2 calls $0.

River: ($72) 9/images/graemlins/spade.gif (2 players)

Final Pot: $72

PoBoy321

12-05-2005, 12:29 AM

I usually raise the flop to around $20.

miajag81

12-05-2005, 12:59 AM

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I usually raise the flop to around $20.

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I usually do this but occasionally push. I never flat call.

12-05-2005, 01:27 AM

I think you really need to pop him on the flop here. The flop is really the only street where you're going to have some fold equity, and since a flop call telegraphs a draw, you give him a chance to get away when you hit. I'd get more money in sooner.

12-05-2005, 01:44 AM

IMO I don't see JTh as a raising hand in this situation. If everyone had just called around to you then you might raise, but I don't consider it a reraising hand. There are 12 overcards in deck against you!

miajag81

12-05-2005, 01:51 AM

12-05-2005, 01:53 AM

I'm confused. Are you saying you shouldn't reraise the flop? Unless we're looking at a set here, hero has 15 outs and a lot of fold equity.

12-05-2005, 03:04 AM

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IMO I don't see JTh as a raising hand in this situation. If everyone had just called around to you then you might raise, but I don't consider it a reraising hand. There are 12 overcards in deck against you!

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You're not reraising JTh here because you think you have the best hand at the moment (though you might). You're reraising because you have at least 12 and possibly 14 outs, giving you a lot of equity if called, plus folding equity.

12-05-2005, 03:06 AM

I'm all in.

PoBoy321

12-05-2005, 03:07 AM

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I usually raise the flop to around $20.

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I usually do this but occasionally push. I never flat call.

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I would push if the stack sizes were different. The way that the stack sizes are, a push is a little awkward.

12-05-2005, 03:23 AM

I don't mind a raise on the flop to 20 whatsoever as the stacks are perfect for it. Granted I am pushing any turn, and calling him if he puts me in on any turn as I will have odds to do so if I take this line. I just push here, for the "extra FE" and to get paid off in full, as I don't miss draws and I don't want him to get scared away /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

Maulik

12-05-2005, 04:03 AM

On the flop, I'd raise more as suggested.

I can't tell if the turn action is you betting or calling. But I'd take a free card here if possible.

RIDGE45

12-05-2005, 07:36 AM

Not to mention possible free card if we want to take it on the turn, if a scare card shows (overcard), or if we think villian may have us beat.

A raise lets check behind unimproved if need be on the turn. (granted opponent calls and then checks the turn)

Raising >> calling because
1. Fold equity
2. Free Card Possibility
3. etc, etc.
3. Other reasons that I am forgetting, or not smart enough to know