Rakeback + VIP offers

Can a player receive rakeback from PP as well as get into the VIP program? I'm wondering if I am missing out on all this VIP $.
Thx

[StacysMom]

pp doesnt allow rakeback. However you can be a VIP regardless of whether you where signed up under an affilaite.

[Newt_Buggs]

yes

You may be missing out on something if you take a VIP offer. VIP offers are essentially approved rakeback deals and the question is, which one pays you a greater percentage?

Yes, you can get either and both. obviously if you have just opened a new account for RB, you will have to play enough over the next few months for party to put you on the vip.

cheers

[Lansky]

Are you guys absolutely sure that they are paying affilates for rake as well as vip, vip won't just essentially replace rakeback (yes, i know there is no official rakeback)
thx
lansky

Do I have to wait for PP to make me a VIP offer? I played over 20,000 hands last month yet haven't received anything

[Newt_Buggs]

I emailed them a week after making my new account and said that I was planning on playing a lot. The next day they invited me into VIP and called me up with an offer.

I called Party and asked about the VIP, they said if I carried on playing as much as I had they would offer it to me next month.
Instead I opened a RB account, which has been paying me.

I've been playing 250 sngs a week since then, I called party again and asked about VIP and was told I would get the call in Dec if I carried on at this level.

My RB is paid to me by my affiliate, as far as party is concerned my affiliate is pocketing all of it, so the VIP "should" be extra.

Cheers

I'd be suprised if Party is not deducting VIP payments from the MGR.

Is there an affiliate who could confirm this either way?

[morgant]

VIP is being taken from our affiliate MGR.

[arizona]

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VIP is being taken from our affiliate MGR.

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So say a player has am MGR of $6000, a RB deal for 20% and a vip payment for $1000. The $1000 vip payment would be deducted from the MGR, not the 20% that gets paid to the affiliate/player, right?

6000 MGR
-1000 vip
=5000

The RB would be 20% of the 5000 right?

It wouldn't be 20% of 6000 ($1200)and then minus the 1000 vip, so the affiliate or player would only get $200?

[MINETZ]

its deducted from total mgr not the amount an affiliate is paid.

[spliff]

You are talking about VIP-offers, what about ordenary Party-points you can use to buy M´merchandise and as Party-points-tourney entry.

If i accumulate 250 party-points, and buy or enter a 250 party-point tourney - how does that affect my rakeback (MGR) if at all.

Do i understand it right?

Could you, instead of taking vip-offers just participate in the paty-points tourneys, if that doesn't affect your rakeback (MGR).

I haven't signed up to recieve party-points yet. Are there any reasons i should not sign up for party-points when recieving rakeback ?

Well if you rake $6,000 MGR, then get $1000 as "VIP BONUS" then your MNR (monthly NET rake) would be $5,000 and out of that you would be getting 20% back.

However, I doubt that if your affiliate is giving out rakeback systematically you will be getting this for long. I suggest that the moment he starts postponing payouts - play elsewhere. It probably means he's gotten shut down.

Mr.Rakeback!

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Well if you rake $6,000 MGR, then get $1000 as "VIP BONUS" then your MNR (monthly NET rake) would be $5,000 and out of that you would be getting 20% back.

However, I doubt that if your affiliate is giving out rakeback systematically you will be getting this for long. I suggest that the moment he starts postponing payouts - play elsewhere. It probably means he's gotten shut down.

Mr.Rakeback!

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I am not not talking about getting a payment in $'s.

I'm talking about accumulating 500 party-points, and then use it to buy merchandise or to participate in a party-points free-roll.

How does that affect my rakeback.

Should i consider not to sign up for the party-points when recieving rakeback, or is party-points allways preferable ??

[ep510]

So any VIP bonus that you get from pp is directly deducted from your MGR?

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So any VIP bonus that you get from pp is directly deducted from your MGR?

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That should be the case in terms of cash being paid from PP.

But what about Party-points not turned into cash - but spend in the Party-point free rolls ??

How many $'s get deducted from your MGR pr. party-point ??

Should i sign up for the Party-point or not ??