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12-04-2005, 02:15 AM
Tried the hand coverter without success. Did I raise too early?

Full Tilt Poker Game #319658363: Table Copper Island - $0.25/$0.50 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:57:25 ET - 2005/12/04
Seat 1: uss wabash ($56.90)
Seat 2: Warrior622 ($15.20)
Seat 3: lgkeeper ($38)
Seat 4: JUSTICE2436 ($11.65)
Seat 5: brianjb ($78.75)
Seat 6: vw16v ($9.50)
Seat 7: groth911t ($95.75)
Seat 8: MrBig51 ($37.15)
Seat 9: BuddyWest ($6.05)
Warrior622 posts the small blind of $0.25
lgkeeper posts the big blind of $0.50
The button is in seat #1
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to lgkeeper [9s 6s]
JUSTICE2436 folds
brianjb folds
vw16v folds
groth911t calls $0.50
MrBig51 folds
BuddyWest folds
uss wabash folds
Warrior622 calls $0.25
lgkeeper checks
*** FLOP *** [8s 7s 5s]
Warrior622 checks
lgkeeper checks
groth911t bets $1.50
Warrior622 folds
lgkeeper calls $1.50
*** TURN *** [8s 7s 5s] [Ad]
lgkeeper checks
groth911t bets $4.50
lgkeeper raises to $9
groth911t folds
Uncalled bet of $4.50 returned to lgkeeper
lgkeeper shows [9s 6s] (a straight flush, Nine high)
lgkeeper wins the pot ($12.85)
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot $13.50 | Rake $0.65
Board: [8s 7s 5s Ad]
Seat 1: uss wabash (button) didn't bet (folded)
Seat 2: Warrior622 (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 3: lgkeeper (big blind) collected ($12.85)
Seat 4: JUSTICE2436 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 5: brianjb didn't bet (folded)
Seat 6: vw16v didn't bet (folded)
Seat 7: groth911t folded on the Turn
Seat 8: MrBig51 didn't bet (folded)
Seat 9: BuddyWest didn't bet (folded)

12-04-2005, 02:29 AM
imo you shouldn't take the lead away from someone who just went from $1.50 to $4.50 on the bets. There are no outs against you, you have an invincible hand, so you can wait for the bet on the river and then raise from there.
Also The bettor had a big stack, and might have made an over size bet to win the pot away from you on the river if you had checked.

12-04-2005, 02:59 AM
It seemed like he was content with you just calling his bet and he kept betting so I would have just called his bet again because you cannot loose this hand anyway shape or form. Maybe he hits trips or even better the "Nut" flush A high and bets hard (dream hand). If he checks the river, you bet and he might call or fold but he did anyway so why not just call.

-Skeme-
12-04-2005, 12:54 PM
The raise is fine. A/images/graemlins/spade.gif calls this anyway, so does a set or anything else that's gonna bet again. You want to build a pot here and get his whole stack. Good hand.

Hattifnatt
12-04-2005, 12:57 PM
I raise the flop. Many cards that kill your action if your up against a straight, 2pair set etc.

pottie
12-04-2005, 12:58 PM
I lead the flop.

Hattifnatt
12-04-2005, 01:00 PM
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I lead the flop.

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That what I ment as well, didnt notice he checked at first.

Aslo dont get into a habit to slowplay just because you flopped the pure nuts. its another thing if you got 77 on a 773 r board because the deck is kinda crippled. But even with that hand you can play it fast if you suspect an big overpair out there.

swolfe
12-04-2005, 01:18 PM
lead the flop, lead the turn, half-pot bets.

your turn check-raise after the flop smooth call is too strong.

12-04-2005, 04:51 PM
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lead the flop, lead the turn, half-pot bets.

your turn check-raise after the flop smooth call is too strong.

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But in an unraised flop, if I lead out and he caught no part, I get nothing at all. At least I should let him catch up, right? Against stronger opponents, I might lead out and make them think I'm stabbing or caught a little pair. Just my opinion - thanks for the feedback.