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stu55
12-04-2005, 01:51 AM
First posts in a long time of a short time here.

First one is something I usually do in the SB or CO, trying to steal blinds starting at BB t50, if my stack is sufficient to do it


***** Hand History for Game 3141029124 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17967394 Level:4 Blinds(50/100) - Saturday, December 03, 23:58:42 EDT 2005
Table Table 68186 (Real Money)
Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 5
Seat 2: HERO ( $1788 )
Seat 6: kwiggy ( $1242 )
Seat 7: linda12345 ( $2185 )
Seat 8: Ship___It ( $405 )
Seat 9: TU95BEAR ( $2380 )
Trny:17967394 Level:4
Blinds(50/100)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 9h Kc ]
>You have options at Table 66814 Table!.
linda12345 did not respond in time.
linda12345 folds.
Ship___It folds.
TU95BEAR folds.
>You have options at Table 66814 Table!.
HERO raises [175].
kwiggy calls [125].
** Dealing Flop ** [ As, Th, 7h ]
HERO bets [300].
kwiggy is all-In [1017]



This I am pretty sure I played right, but not 100% sure if it was the right move on the bubble. Is there anytime this is a call or push?

***** Hand History for Game 3141079511 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $10 Buy-in + $1 Entry Fee Trny:17967549 Level:6 Blinds(100/200) - Sunday, December 04, 00:07:32 EDT 2005
Table Table 66814 (Real Money)
Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 4
Seat 2: OCG81 ( $805 )
Seat 4: TLeo2005 ( $4555 )
Seat 9: HERO ( $1345 )
Seat 3: iillllllllii ( $1295 )
Trny:17967549 Level:6
Blinds(100/200)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ 6h Ad ]
OCG81 is all-In [805]

GtrHtr
12-04-2005, 02:22 AM
#1 fold. Look at the stacks, blinds, blah, blah, blah.

# 2 looks good. Of course I have no idea what you did...

rbear
12-04-2005, 02:41 AM
#1- I fold this UTG.

#2- Villians range? Any 2, call... otherwise, fold.

Shillx
12-04-2005, 02:57 AM
Hand 2 is a call if I am reading the HH right (you are in the BB and it folds to you after UTG moves in?). You should be calling here with about 20% of your hands in this spot. A6o is good enough against someone who is playing optimally. Most people don't play well, but I would guess that that the correct push rate (in his case it is ~25%) is less then what most people would push here. Even if he plays perfectly it is still a +EV call.

rbear
12-04-2005, 03:01 AM
this is a call even if range for pushing is 44+, A10+, KQ+??

you don't consider villians range at all here?

tewall
12-04-2005, 03:09 AM
Yes, the question is not if it's a call if villain plays perfectly, but if he plays badly.

tewall
12-04-2005, 03:23 AM
Hand 1, you could consider all-in pre-flop. You're almost at an effective stack of 10xBB here, and K9o is easily strong enough to go all in at 10xBB.

The way you played it is OK if you know the BB is a weak player. Also if any flop comes without an Ace, you could go all-in and it would a difficult call for someone who didn't flop a pair, which is 2 to 1 against. And with a smallish pair, they might still fold, so this play is easily +EV.

Unless Villain in hand 2 is way tight, you should have an easy call here I think.

tigerite
12-04-2005, 08:58 AM
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Hand 1, you could consider all-in pre-flop. You're almost at an effective stack of 10xBB here, and K9o is easily strong enough to go all in at 10xBB.

The way you played it is OK if you know the BB is a weak player. Also if any flop comes without an Ace, you could go all-in and it would a difficult call for someone who didn't flop a pair, which is 2 to 1 against. And with a smallish pair, they might still fold, so this play is easily +EV.

Unless Villain in hand 2 is way tight, you should have an easy call here I think.

[/ QUOTE ]

I agree with this.

patrick dicaprio
12-04-2005, 09:09 AM
you are wasting money if you routinely raise this small. with 50-100 blinds you are offering your opponent a pot of 275 and he has to call 125 he is right to call with any two here.

on the flop if there is no ace fine but when you raise get called and have a flop with two high suited cards that will put out a lot of draws it is less likely at this level that your opponent will fold. plus you should just be happy to call here preflop most of the time with your opponens stack. the blinds here arent yet big enough to routinely make this play. pick your spots because some opponents almost never fold in the blind and you have to know that before you decide to raise.

on the second hand i call most of the time here is not all the time at 11s.

Pat