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pokerjoker
12-04-2005, 01:40 AM
So...I lost $1400 this weekend. I didn't tilt. I actually played quite well. I had bad beat after bad beat and whenever I had a good hand someone else seemed to have a great hand. I am a bit confused about this 20 Buy ins thing. I HAD 20 buyins..but now my bankroll is $2600. (overall I am up about $9000 total in 5 months, but poker is my only job and I've been spending a lot of money) I have been 6 tabling 200NL So what do I do?

DeezNutz3
12-04-2005, 01:51 AM
Sounds like it might be variance but I would look through some hands and play less tables until you can pinpoint your downswing. Best of Luck.

Donny

StacysMom
12-04-2005, 02:14 AM
Move up to win it back faster?

ZBTHorton
12-04-2005, 02:15 AM
I personally believe you need 30-50 buyins in order to play NL properly.

12-04-2005, 02:29 AM
well -7 buyins is actually alot.. in the start when i "thought" i was playing good (but i wasnt), i had many 4-5 buyin swings daily..but then i fixed my game and realized that i just wasnt as good as i thought i was .i suggest you fix your game. and 20buyin is just a number. i always keep a bigger roll then i should. you should move down and fix your game and then move back up. unless u want to fight it out like me and stay in 200nl but i had a bigger roll. so i suggest you move down. peace. and i have a thread somewhere about what happened with me in 200nl.. that might help.

KKbluff
12-04-2005, 02:47 AM
Move down, try and plug a few leaks if any, build back that what you lost, and THEN go back to your regular game.

That is what I do when I experience swings like you are going through.

Moving down and winning more hands helps build confidence as well which you will want to have when you re-approach your 200NL game again.

Best of luck

KKbluff
12-04-2005, 02:51 AM
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Move up to win it back faster?

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Also try the martingale system! /images/graemlins/tongue.gif

OrianasDaad
12-04-2005, 03:11 AM
If you are asking the question, then odds are that you should move down.

After a big loss, I go back and seriously study the way I played. I write it down in a little notebook. Develop your own, honest, system to determine how you are doing.

Most of the time, it's due to me playing badly according to the fundamental theory, and sometimes just playing badly overall.

If poker is your only job, then 20 buy-ins seems like a pretty short bankroll for NL. Since you are making regular withdrawals (as poker is your only source of income), then you need to have a larger bankroll to cover for the months where you don't do so well. This would also suggest moving down in limits. Mabye two or three times what is required by theory.

OrianasDaad
12-04-2005, 03:14 AM
I sometimes do this after big wins as well. It's important to remember that bad play can win money in the short term, and it's important not to reinforce bad habits by winning with them.

ryanghall
12-04-2005, 03:26 AM
If poker was my job, I'd certainly want more than 20 buyins.

I'm 10 buyins down from my peak myself at the moment, and I just moved down a level (although hopefully I'll be back up soon).

There's no shame in moving down. I've had to at every single level - and I've always moved back up successfully.

Ryan

12-04-2005, 03:54 AM
My girlfriend asked me this the other day. I was like: totally.

MTBlue
12-04-2005, 07:38 AM
Move down.

Ojo_Rojo
12-04-2005, 08:40 AM
I'm currently suffering from a 2-month bad run - but I feel things are starting to turn.

The downswing happened just after I moved up from 100NL, and I dropped 10 buyins. /images/graemlins/frown.gif. And poker is my only income too.

I took some time off, rejuvenated my bank roll with some casino bonuses, and cleared some poker bonuses at the micro stakes tables - mixed with 100NL. Now I'm set up to have another crack at 200NL and am feeling confident.

Good Luck!!

Ojo_Rojo

MarkL444
12-04-2005, 08:50 AM
stay at 200 and play less tables