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EMcWilliams
12-03-2005, 11:47 PM
25NL, effective stacks 25

Preflop: Hero is in BB with A /images/graemlins/heart.gif Q /images/graemlins/club.gif
UTG calls, SB completes, Hero checks

Flop:
6 /images/graemlins/spade.gif8 /images/graemlins/diamond.gifQ /images/graemlins/spade.gif
SB bets .25, Hero raises .75 to 1 total, UTG calls.

Turn: Q /images/graemlins/heart.gif
SB bets .25, Hero raises to 2, UTG re-raises to 4, SB folds, Hero calls.

River: 2 /images/graemlins/diamond.gif
Hero checks, UTG bets pushes, hero calls.

Reads: I just sat, but the first hand I see is Villian donking all in a pair on a paired board, loses. Then proceeded to get AA in the BB, checks it, and hits a set on turn. Basically, hes a donk, as far as i can tell. I asked myself who was stupider between him and another donk, and he won. Results to follow.
Hattifnatt
12-03-2005, 11:48 PM
Raise preflop. Pot flop.
EMcWilliams
12-03-2005, 11:50 PM
I dont like raising PF OOP with a hand that will at best make TPTK on average. Im trying to minimize playing TPTK OOP. I did pot the flop btw.
davekngs
12-04-2005, 02:07 AM
PF play is fine, raising is an option but calling is fine as long as you dont make a habit of it. flop play is standard maybe i make it $1 (easily callable with Flush draw and extracts value) but thats being picky.
You have to raise the turn, it gives your hand away but i have him on a weaker Q anyway
EMcWilliams
12-04-2005, 02:24 AM
Well, villian has 88 and MHING...Got him back later when I turned a set of queens against ANOTHER slowplayed set. Felt good, I mean real good.
12-04-2005, 02:59 AM
I always like to preflop raise to get Q,6 to fold in the SB. You don't want anyone to luck out on a free flop when you are all geared up to put some money in there.
The reraise on turn is a really bad sign, and the push on the river seals your fate. I fold here most of the time, even with this hand. Is that too timid, or smart, I'm not sure.
12-04-2005, 02:10 PM
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Well, villian has 88 and MHING...Got him back later when I turned a set of queens against ANOTHER slowplayed set. Felt good, I mean real good.

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Hitting your 2-outer felt good after you over bet TPTK against a set of 8s? Huh, can we play heads up sometime?

A pf raise lets you better define what he has. If he calls, most likely he has some sort of A-big or he's got a PP hoping to spike a set. You can better understand what is going on when he cold calls your flop bet.