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12-03-2005, 11:18 PM
I was going to raise this preflop, then it got popped on my left and felt id let the pot bloat itself.

Can i lay down the flop?
Whats my turn plan?
I felt river was ok because a checkraise would most likely have come off MP2 and would have lost overcalls.

UTG is a calling station, likes to see rivers
UTG+1 is LPP
No reads on MP2

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Preflop: Hero is SB with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif.
UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls, MP3 calls, <font color="#CC3333">CO raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls, MP2 calls, MP3 calls.

Flop: (13 SB) 8/images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 7/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises</font>, MP3 folds, CO folds, Hero calls, UTG calls, UTG+1 calls.

Turn: (10.50 BB) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG checks, UTG+1 checks, MP2 checks.

River: (10.50 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, UTG folds, UTG+1 folds, MP2 calls.

Final Pot: 12.50 BB

12-04-2005, 12:17 AM
I'd bet the turn.


PS.I think MP2 has T9.
And there's a post called something like "Bad Larrys" which is worth a read.

12-04-2005, 12:33 AM
did you mean this?

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showfl...rue#Post3927794 (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showflat.php?Cat=0&amp;Board=mediumholdem&amp;Number=39277 94&amp;Searchpage=1&amp;Main=3927794&amp;Words=-re+%2Bbad+%2Blarrys&amp;topic=&amp;Search=true#Post3927794 )


out of interest, why are we betting the turn here? i would have thought between the 3 of them there is a KQ or AQ that i have ~3 outs against.

istewart
12-04-2005, 12:47 AM
I like your play here.

12-04-2005, 12:53 AM
I really think I bet this flop to see where I am. If I have to call 2 raises, then I'm very likely to fold, esp since you don't have much on MP2 except bad position.

What was your turn plan - check/call?

12-04-2005, 12:55 AM
turn and river plan were (provided i remained ui)

check and call for 1, fold for 2

nomadtla
12-04-2005, 01:10 AM
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I'd bet the turn.


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Me too cause I think I could easily find a fold to a raise since we have few outs if we're behind. Also because we have top pair and very solid kicker (considering the PFR allready left the hand AQ and KQ don't worry me as much) we do not want to give a free card, if MP2 was raising to buy button and a free card.

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I think MP2 has T9.

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If he does show me T9 I laugh and make a note of his passivity to scare cards. If I had T9 I raise this everyday considering the flush that came was a BDFD on the flop.

12-04-2005, 01:20 AM
If he's a thinking player he could also have A8s A7s 99 TT and the raise was only to drive out other players increasing his chances in this large pot. When he got the chance to take the free card, he did.