Too large of a bet?

I have trouble reeling in people. i flop the nuts, and there is a flush draw showing, so i want ppl to hit that.. but do i want people to draw cheaply? and if so, how cheap? thanks


Stage #256443435 Tourney ID 45823 Holdem Single Tournament No Limit $20 - 2005-12-03 18:13:11 (ET)
Table: 4470364 (Real Money) Seat #7 is the dealer
Seat 1 - JAMILKMAN ($1395 in chips)
Seat 2 - RAYFINKLE ($1510 in chips)
Seat 4 - IMTHE1PLAYA ($680 in chips)
Seat 5 - BIG_PAPA_STV ($1635 in chips)
Seat 6 - GOOFY ($2055 in chips)
Seat 7 - _DOUBLED_ ($4130 in chips)
Seat 8 - BAHORST ($2095 in chips)
BAHORST - Posts small blind $20
JAMILKMAN - Posts big blind $40
*** POCKET CARDS ***
Dealt to BAHORST [4d Kd]
RAYFINKLE - Folds
IMTHE1PLAYA - Folds
BIG_PAPA_STV - Calls $40
GOOFY - Folds
_DOUBLED_ - Calls $40
BAHORST - Calls $20
JAMILKMAN - Checks
*** FLOP *** [Kc 4c Ks]
BAHORST - Checks
JAMILKMAN - Checks
BIG_PAPA_STV - Bets $160
_DOUBLED_ - Calls $160
BAHORST - Raises $1000 to $1000
JAMILKMAN - Folds
BIG_PAPA_STV - Folds
_DOUBLED_ - Folds
BAHORST - returned ($840) : not called
*** SHOW DOWN ***
BAHORST - Does not show
BAHORST Collects $640 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total Pot($640)
Board [Kc 4c Ks]
Seat 1: JAMILKMAN (big blind) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 2: RAYFINKLE Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 4: IMTHE1PLAYA Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 5: BIG_PAPA_STV Folded on the FLOP
Seat 6: GOOFY Folded on the POCKET CARDS
Seat 7: _DOUBLED_ (dealer) Folded on the FLOP
Seat 8: BAHORST (small blind) collected Total ($640) HI:($640) [Does not show]

[splashpot]

You're not afraid of any draw. So it shouldn't matter to you how cheaply they get their draw. I'd call the flop and check min-raise the turn.

[bluefeet]

The "additional" price to charge one chasing the FD, when the flush does not beat your hand is 0.

But I understand your point. Assuming they WILL put in more chips for the misguided attempt, you want to facilitate this for them. The flop here, with this action isn't the place. Call flop, check-raise turn (modestly), value bet river.

Doesn't check min-raise turn tell your opponents you have a monster

[bluefeet]

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Doesn't check min-raise turn tell your opponents you have a monster

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maybe, maybe not. but it does give them the odds to continue - drawing, or better yet when they've now made a hand as well. but it is a consideration. depends. there might be a condition that would justify not showing your true strength until the river (assuming one or more are adequatly feeding the pot for starters).

[BriPlay]

you are in a GREAT spot to make a TON of money..you ahve flopped a FH, and have action behingd you and a caller behind...you are vulnerable only to a higher full, say KT or KJ, and that person has only about 3 outs to beat you on the turn and 6 on the river (if my math is correct)

Call the flop.
check the turn and decide based on that card what to do..I agree this is prob time for a raise, if both players are still in go for 3x, esp if flush hit and there's still betting.

Brian

Yes, this was too large a bet. I'd call the flop then raise the turn if they both come with more betting. If they both check the turn, I'd then bet 300-400.