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marathoner1977
12-03-2005, 12:50 PM
What have you experienced in moving from 5/10 to 10/20 as far as change in bb/100? It seems that the increase in number of TAGS per player might cause one to experience around 0.5-0.75 reduction - is this reasonable to think?

Also, what about factoring in the number of tables one can play well for a long session. Would it not be easier to play 5 5/10's for 8 hours than it would to play 5 10/20's? So I guess I am interested in hearing what you have to say about the "nature" of these two games and how they differ, especially according to a FULL TIME player (emotional effects according to long sessions, etc...).

Thank You - I appreciate your input!!!!

Spicymoose
12-03-2005, 12:54 PM
Game overall is quite a bit more agressive. You get check raised on the turn more often. Average player is different. You will just have to see how it works out for you.

As for emotional... be prepared to take the worst downswing you have had at 5/10, and multiply that monitary value by 2.5.

krishanleong
12-03-2005, 01:35 PM
It depends on how your run.

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What can I expect to drop in bb/100?

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I tend to drop my shorts and bend over twice / 100 hands.

Krishan

imported_azalin
12-03-2005, 02:32 PM
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It depends on how your run.

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What can I expect to drop in bb/100?

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I tend to drop my shorts and bend over twice / 100 hands.

Well put. Very well put..

Krishan

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Nietzsche
12-03-2005, 02:41 PM
It is usually best to play fewer tables when you move up. If you do you shouldn't expect too much of a drop in win rate provided you adapt to the more aggressive nature of the higher game quickly.

5/10 is a much easier game to 4-5 table than 10/20 as the players are a lot more predictable in general.

TheMetetron
12-03-2005, 02:56 PM
Party 10/20 is pie provided you know what you are doing well.

Problem is most don't, likely including you.

Luckily, the best way to get better is to post here and actually play in the game itself.

Also, I'd find it impossible to play any number of tables for 8 hours straight, let alone the 8-12 I play now. The guy suggesting to play less tables when moving up is spot-on, helps you to really concentrate on the nature of the games.

Good luck on the jump, it has canablized many a poker player.

TheMetetron
12-03-2005, 02:58 PM
Oh, almost forgot.

Yeah, variance will be a bitch. Learn to deal with it.

Zele
12-04-2005, 05:31 PM
If table selection is not already the first thing you think about, make it so now.

12-05-2005, 12:31 PM
Haven't played much at 10/20 yet, but so far the tables are just as loose, if not often looser, but the play is more aggressive. I have to really watch my post flop play walking the line between making good folds and avoiding being pushed off a hand. The 45/25/3 types are reasonably common.

I've found so far the 10/20 players just don't care if they lose the money. At 5/10 I found more weak-tight amateur dabblers. At 10/20 the players seems to be just financially well off and don't care if they blow $2000 in a night and consequently play fearless.

jba
12-05-2005, 12:42 PM
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this is hilarious somehow

Guy McSucker
12-05-2005, 01:22 PM
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I've found so far the 10/20 players just don't care if they lose the money


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For most of them, this is just as well.

Guy.

wackjob
12-05-2005, 03:48 PM
my first 15 to 20K @ 10/20 was break even and very roller coaster like. After that and another 20 to 25K hands I leveled off at 1.5BB/100, and now after a bad run for the last week im down to about .70/100. correct bankroll, less tables, shorter sessions to start off with is was key for me.

ddubois
12-05-2005, 04:33 PM
If my results were an indication, I'd say about 4bb/100. /images/graemlins/blush.gif

Subfallen
12-05-2005, 05:10 PM
Just play 100k hands and see what happens; like krishan said it just depends on how you run.

My experience was that I ran around 4BB/100 for like 20k hands of 5/10, then I moved up. At 10/20 my first 40k were ~3BB/100 and my last 55k have been ~2BB/100. (These 55k have included three 200+BB downswings and four smaller 100BB downswings. Biggest and fastest was 250BB in 3k hands.)