$55: Fold to Cbet with TT Overpair, L1?

[Taraz]

This was a tough hand for me. Do you lay this down? It was the 3rd or 4th hand, so no reads really.


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BB (t1200)
UTG (t1000)
UTG+1 (t1000)
MP1 (t985)
MP2 (t1000)
MP3 (t2025)
CO (t1000)
Hero (t990)
SB (t800)

Preflop: Hero is Button with T/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls t15, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 raises to t65</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t65, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls t50, UTG calls t50.

Flop: (t267.50) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 5/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
BB checks, UTG checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP3 bets t250</font>, Hero??

[tigerite]

I think you have to let him have this one. With JJ it becomes interesting though.

[bluefeet]

His hefty c-b on this very draw friendly flop certainly is consistant with an overpair (to yours). He's committing a ton of chips here, despite you in position...a little less unlikely line with a whiffed AK or the like. With two to act after you as well, this is one I think you need to get away from.

Anyone folding this preflop?

[tigerite]

No, not on the button. Too much advantage to be had with position on the flop v preflop raiser, and all that jazz.

I would fold this. The bet is too big for being cbet. Smells like value bet with overpair and scared of draws.

I would lay this one down but I wouldn't like it. Nothing wrong with the call preflop.

I'm going to fold too, he's betting into 3 other people on a draw heavy board, he's got an overpair most of the time. Looks like a value bet to me

How 'bout if he'd bet t160? Assuming 1/2-pot you'd consider a cont. bet, how much larger than 1/2 pot does it have to be before it crosses over into value bet territory?