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Maulik
12-03-2005, 06:30 AM
PAHUD:

Villain: 32vpip/4.0pfr

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $ Maulik (6 max, 5 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

MP ($197.96)
Button ($113.40)
SB ($41.65)
Maulik ($99.20)
UTG ($86)

Preflop: Maulik is BB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/diamond.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $2</font>, SB (poster) calls $1.50, <font color="#CC3333">Maulik raises to $5</font>, Button calls $4, SB folds.

Flop: ($14) A/images/graemlins/club.gif, 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Maulik bets $10</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Button raises to $20</font>, Maulik calls $10.

Turn: ($54) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Maulik checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $15</font>, Maulik calls $15.

River: ($84) 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Maulik checks, <font color="#CC3333">Button bets $20</font>, Maulik calls $20.

Final Pot: $124

Malachii
12-03-2005, 06:37 AM
Malachii thinks that this hand plays a lot easier if Maulik bets the turn and folds to a raise.

Maulik
12-03-2005, 06:41 AM
Malachii doesn't want a worse hand to bet on a relatively dry board, heads up?

Malachii
12-03-2005, 06:43 AM
By leading the turn, you find out where you're at in the hand. Most aces will just call the turn and you can value bet the river. Most sets will raise the turn, and you can safely fold.

soah
12-03-2005, 07:03 AM
Preflop sucks. The rest is fine. It looks like he's value betting a worse hand for you, and it's tempting to get greedy and shove the rest in at the end, but without a read that he'll go broke with less than TPTK it's probably not worth the risk. If your hand happens to be no good then thank him for letting you showdown somewhat cheaply without having to make any tough decisions.

jjb108
12-03-2005, 10:04 AM
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Preflop sucks. The rest is fine. It looks like he's value betting a worse hand for you, and it's tempting to get greedy and shove the rest in at the end, but without a read that he'll go broke with less than TPTK it's probably not worth the risk. If your hand happens to be no good then thank him for letting you showdown somewhat cheaply without having to make any tough decisions.

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I'm with Soah here, I don't like the raise preflop although you did get it HU and its 6 max. OOP sucks and the minraise taking away the initiative on the hand is how these things go. IMO the min raise plus "value" bet on the end indicate YHIG. (Edit - Just like this hand here!) (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/showthreaded.php?Cat=0&amp;Number=4090953&amp;an=0&amp;page=0# Post4090953) Especially at 6 max. Any reads...seen any showdowns from this guy. This helps a lot.

I'd expect a junkie two pair from a bad player to minraise and push on the end when there's no apparent draw that hit.

I'm happy with TPTK in this pot and ready to make a note on villian. Since you posted, I'm guessing this guy showed you something strange like A4o??

trevor
12-03-2005, 11:51 AM
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Preflop sucks.

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Are you saying this because you don't like the raise OOP? I actually like raising here but if you're gonna do it make it $10 to go.

On the turn, the pot is gonna be about your stack size after his bet. I check-raise all-in.

Isura
12-03-2005, 12:04 PM
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Preflop sucks.

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Are you saying this because you don't like the raise OOP? I actually like raising here but if you're gonna do it make it $10 to go.

On the turn, the pot is gonna be about your stack size after his bet. I check-raise all-in.

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I make it 8-10 prefloop too.

Isura
12-03-2005, 12:05 PM
Were you planning on calling a river push?

MYNAMEIZGREG
12-03-2005, 12:15 PM
What about something like KQ clubs?

Hattifnatt
12-03-2005, 12:17 PM
I would reraise a little more preflop, play like you did on the flop and bet 3/4 pot or so o the turn and (maybe) fold if he raises.

12-03-2005, 01:09 PM
Is it advisable to bet more on the flop in order to give him bad odds to come on the possible flush draw say $15 or if not why?

Cambraceres

beset7
12-03-2005, 02:39 PM
Most of the time you are either chopping or ahead of ATo+ here. That being said, I raise it to more like 9-10 preflop. I personally don't mind the check/call, check/call line on the turn and river versus certain opponents. But, my default is to be the turn 3/4pot or so and fold to a raise.