Parts 4 & 5

[jt1]

"How to loose 100 bb on a Thursday Evening"

written by God
edited by Party Poker, Ultimate Bet, & Full Tilt
Starring Jonny

No reads

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Preflop: Hero is BB with 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls.

Flop: (6.40 SB) J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Button folds, Hero calls.

Turn: (4.20 BB) K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: 5.20 BB

Once again, no reads. I'm a bit surprised that I didn't raise this flop. The only reason I folded is that the PFR was in the bb against multiple limpers.


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Preflop: Hero is Button with 4/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, SB completes, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, MP calls, Hero calls, SB calls.

Flop: (8 SB) 5/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(4 players)</font>
SB checks, <font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, MP folds, Hero folds, SB folds.

Final Pot: 4.50 BB

[milesdyson]

hand 1 looks ok

but hand 2 is ugry. limp preflop is okay but that's a nasty fold.

I would call down hand one. You have around 20%(I have not discounted any hands since hero hasnt shown any interest at the board)equity vs a standard UTG raise imo. So folding would be a mistake.

In hand 2 I would raise the flop. Folding is imo a BIG mistake.

[Guruman]

if you're going to fold that turn in hand 1 then you should have folded the flop. (in fact, you have may have wanted to fold pf if you felt you couldn't call down when you spiked your ace). If anything, that K helped your hand - as it gave you three or four outs to split when behind.

I still raise hand two without a read. Then I get one. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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if you're going to fold that turn in hand 1 then you should have folded the flop. (in fact, you have may have wanted to fold pf if you felt you couldn't call down when you spiked your ace). If anything, that K helped your hand - as it gave you three or four outs to split when behind.

I still raise hand two without a read. Then I get one. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

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it definately didnt help his hand. He went from a 60% loser to an 80% loser. Given this hand range 77+,A8s+,A10+,K10s+,Q10s+,J10s,KJo+.

[bobman0330]

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I would call down hand one. You have around 20%(I have not discounted any hands since hero hasnt shown any interest at the board)equity vs a standard UTG raise imo. So folding would be a mistake.

In hand 2 I would raise the flop. Folding is imo a BIG mistake.

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Folding hand 1 is good. He's only getting 3-1 on a calldown. I like the flop call too.

Folding hand 2 is bad, i agree.

[Spicymoose]

Hand 1 = good.

Hand 2 = raise on the flop, or raise on the turn.

[Chairman Wood]

Hand 1 I think is cool.

Raise the flop in hand 2