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DeathDonkey

12-02-2005, 03:39 PM

Preflop raiser here is a LAG 40/20ish but reasonable postflop. Everyone else is loose passive and awful at poker. I have no idea what to do with this river card...

-DeathDonkey

Party Poker 30/60 Hold'em (6 max, 7 handed) wacki's version of bison (http://parazen.bio.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/tc.cgi)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 3 /images/graemlins/spade.gif, Q /images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG raises, MP1 calls, MP2 calls, CO calls, 1 fold, SB calls, Hero calls.

Flop: (12 SB) 4 /images/graemlins/spade.gif, 6 /images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7 /images/graemlins/spade.gif (6 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP1 calls, MP2 folds, CO calls, SB calls, Hero raises, UTG 3-bets, MP1 calls, CO folds, SB calls, Hero caps, UTG calls, MP1 calls, SB calls.

Turn: (14.50 BB) 4 /images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG bets, MP1 calls, SB calls, Hero calls.

River: (18.50 BB) 5 /images/graemlins/heart.gif (4 players)
SB checks...

Gar Pike

12-02-2005, 04:08 PM

Check/call one bet?

I'd be pretty sure I was beat, but it feels like UTG was betting an overpair, and MP1&SB were playing for a flush.

I think the pot size justifies calling a single bet, but I don't play this limit, so...

I'd hate to bet and get raised.

Regards

Gar

12-02-2005, 04:18 PM

With this many players a couple of things could happen. It could be checked around because this card completes some hands that could be held by either blind, namely a straight but also the backdoor flush. Second, someone may have hit their backdoor flush or a higher straight and you hand is no good. Third, there is the remote possiblitiy that you're up against a full house even though this is unlikely. With all these potential hands out I think your best course of action is to bet the hand out and hope to pick up some crying calls from overpairs; people may be more inclined to check it down because it is a real possibility that either the hero or small blind made a hand since these cards are in the "blinds playing range" and are unlikely to have helped those outside the blinds. I would bet because I don't feel that your hand warrents a check-raise, you have a good chance of being called by worse hands, and there is a good possibility that it will be checked around if you don't do the betting yourself.

newhizzle

12-02-2005, 04:40 PM

i think id bet, this is a pretty scary river and if noone has you beat they might check it through, if any of the passive guys raise you have a pretty easy fold unless you think theyd slowplay a 4 and raise it on a super scary river card or something, i think against this many players you could probably fold to a raise from the 40/20 guy too, since you seem to think hes not a complete idiot

Entity

12-02-2005, 05:01 PM

Check and see. Backdoor flush, low end of sucker straight, paired board.

Rob