10/20 AA turn

[jason_t]

I did not have stats on this villain but my read from this session is that he is a LAG.

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Preflop: I am SB with A/images/graemlins/heart.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I raise</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls.

Flop: (5 SB) 7/images/graemlins/club.gif, 4/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">I bet</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">I 3-bet</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 caps</font>, I call.

Turn: (6.50 BB) 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>

Lead or check/raise?

[poker1O1]

i would lead and call a raise. check raising and getting 3 bet would suck

Lead--who knows what this monkey is doing on the flop. You run into out-of-line aggression on the flop most of the time. I'd wager more times than not he was just messing with you and will either call or check the turn depending on what you do. Don't let this boso's aggression on the flop deter you from betting and giving him a free card here.

[newhizzle]

well, if you are going for pure value, theres not really any realisic draws on this board so you dont really have to worry about him taking a free card, even though he probably wouldnt anyway, but check/raising might let him know that you are really serious about your hand and put him into call down mode, if you lead you might be able to get a 3-bet in

another question is what range do you think he has here?
an overpair?
a set?
A7s?
58o or some stupid crap?

what kind of LAG is this and how often do you think hes jamming this particular board with one pair or less?

if you think you are ahead most of the time when he raises a turn bet id bet and try for a 3-bet, i think that would probably get you more in the long run then trying for a check/raise, if not, i guess bet/call or maybe c/r/call, i dont know

[ErrantNight]

lead and hope to 3-bet

[flopmonster]

I like leading and then calling down

[Entity]

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lead and hope to 3-bet

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I think that's generally gonna be too many bets. If we want to put in that many I think lead-calling and checkraising the river is better.

Rob

[QTip]

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If we want to put in that many I think lead-calling and checkraising the river is better.

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Why's that?

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I like leading and then calling down

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As do I. You have but one (BIG) pair. If you get raised here, he really likes something about his hand and you should assume you are behind. Call the raise and check-call the river unless the board pairs--in which case I would consider leading again esp. if it is the turn card that pairs or the botton card on the flop, but esp. the turn card.

[ErrantNight]

for some reason i thought we had 3-bet preflop, not raised.

i'm more inclined to c/r the turn given a correct reading of the play.

I'm not sure what "LAG" means, but since villian limped and then just called your raise preflop, then came out raising and capping, you've almost got to put him on a small pocket pair, which he made a set with on flop. I don't know if I'd put him on 56 suited. Or could he have 99's, JJ's, or TT's and put you on AK or AQ and be betting his overpairs? I agree with some of the other posters and would bet/call the turn and check it down on the River, unless an A hit.

So what really happened?

[shemp]

I lead and 3 bet. I've found that people pretend to have the nuts more often that they do. I've got him squarely on Ad5d, and I think he'll raise the turn. I'm afraid that he has QT and plans on checking behind.