View Full Version : Pacific Poker Puzzle Piece
FlFishOn
12-02-2005, 02:54 PM
I started a poll about PacP appearance VS results two weeks ago. The results, as i interpreted them, suggest that while PacP was a really juicy looking site, many folks were not earning huge pots of money. THis also mirrored my experience and I decided to quit playing there.
I had one account there that was two+ months dormant. While the poll was going on I funded it and played 281 hands of limit hold'em. Before playing I decided to log all starting hands JJ or better and here are the results: 3-AA 1-KK 3-QQ 1-JJ. One would expect 5 of these starters on average and I got 8. I didn't do the math but my guess is that's 1.5 +/- SDs out. Someone should repeat my experiment. Twenty repetitions would be better.
Me, I don't really care too much how it turns out, I'm still done with PacP.... but I would love to see any site caught cold.
tomdemaine
12-02-2005, 02:59 PM
[censored] man 250+ hands?!
Call the papers!
TheIrishThug
12-02-2005, 03:00 PM
1) as u said, 279 hands is barely enough data to judge them on
2) y do u want to see a site get cuaght adjusting the distribution of hands. there is no way that this would be seen as a good thing for the credibility of online poker as a whole.
if the public learns that one site was actually rigged, then everything might get shut down or at least a lot more ppl would be talking about it.
BruceZ
12-02-2005, 04:04 PM
[ QUOTE ]
I started a poll about PacP appearance VS results two weeks ago. The results, as i interpreted them, suggest that while PacP was a really juicy looking site, many folks were not earning huge pots of money. THis also mirrored my experience and I decided to quit playing there.
I had one account there that was two+ months dormant. While the poll was going on I funded it and played 281 hands of limit hold'em. Before playing I decided to log all starting hands JJ or better and here are the results: 3-AA 1-KK 3-QQ 1-JJ. One would expect 5 of these starters on average and I got 8. I didn't do the math but my guess is that's 1.5 +/- SDs out. Someone should repeat my experiment. Twenty repetitions would be better.
Me, I don't really care too much how it turns out, I'm still done with PacP.... but I would love to see any site caught cold.
[/ QUOTE ]
Not as bad as you think:
P(8 or more) = 1 - P(7 or less) = 1 - BINOMDIST(7,281,4/221,TRUE) =~ 14.1%.
If you use the normal approximation to the binomial with a mean of 5.08, and a standard deviation of sqrt(5), then you should correct for continuity by computing P(X >= 7.5) instead of P(X >= 8), and this gives +1.08 standard deviations or 14.0%, in good agreement with above. The Poisson approximation is almost right on too, especially if you interpolate the table to lamda = 5.08.
FlFishOn
12-02-2005, 04:26 PM
"...credibility of online poker as a whole."
This is already the #1 barrier to entry for new players. That won't change.
The first site busted will open the eyes of all to the possibility and get us cleaner poker overall longer term.
vBulletin® v3.8.11, Copyright ©2000-2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.