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pergesu
12-02-2005, 06:23 AM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (9 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

MP1 (t735)
MP2 (t1205)
MP3 (t730)
CO (t775)
Button (t780)
SB (t500)
BB (t860)
UTG (t835)
Hero (t1580)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to t50</font>, <font color="#666666">5 folds</font>, Hero calls t35.

Flop: (t122.50) 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 2/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets t125</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t400</font>, MP2 calls t275.

Turn: (t922.50) 7/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t350</font>, MP2 calls t350.

River: (t1622.50) 4/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, MP2 checks.

Final Pot: t1622.50

I think I definitely needed to be more aware of the stack sizes and just open shove the turn. Maybe I don't need to check-raise the flop though.
tigerite
12-02-2005, 06:25 AM
Eh, I'm not sure about the check-raise line, can't see it folding a worse hand (like AK) and the only hands that may call that you want to are 88, 66 I suppose is a possibility, and at an $11 I suppose they may re-raise with that. I think I'd have to lead this flop, too many cards can come on the turn to leave you unsure where you are in the hand.
applejuicekid
12-02-2005, 06:26 AM
I play it the same on the flop. I make a bigger bet on the turn. And if he has chips left I would bet the river.
pergesu
12-02-2005, 06:29 AM
You think leading the flop gives me a better chance of getting him to fold AK than check-raising does?

Say you lead for 100 and are min-raised, how do you play it out? What if he raises to 400?
12-02-2005, 06:30 AM
I would fold to that raise prelfop. Might be too weak though.

Bigger pair would be nice if you want to c/r. Too many overcards can come on turn that makes playing more difficult.
tigerite
12-02-2005, 06:32 AM
No, but he is making a mistake to call AK with only 6 outs.. it's a close one. It depends if you think the opponent will cont bet enough to make the check-raise line worth it? The thing is you would hate for him to check through here.

If he raises to t400, at a $11 I'm getting my money in the pot, too much chance he has utter garbage, like A3o, 45s, K7, etc.
Jman28
12-02-2005, 06:32 AM
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I would fold to that raise prelfop. Might be too weak though.


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That is way too weak.
12-02-2005, 06:52 AM
I realize that I have good pot odds to call. I'm just too scared to play postflop.

The problem is, that all unders flop doesn't come very often. And if just one overcard comes on mixed flop, not continuation betting would seem weak. If I then cbet 1/2 - 2/3 of pot and get called, I have no idea what to do on the turn. Is villain just another 11s donk who can't get rid of his overs or does he really has something this time? Poof, my stack is 1/3 lighter and I just can't help thinking that it would just cost me t15 if I fold preflop.

Playing against weak tight predictable player (like me /images/graemlins/laugh.gif) this hand would be easy, but common VP$IP 50% PFR 15% this hand comes nightmare because you can't really put him on any hand.
12-02-2005, 07:51 AM
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I realize that I have good pot odds to call. I'm just too scared to play postflop.

The problem is, that all unders flop doesn't come very often. And if just one overcard comes on mixed flop, not continuation betting would seem weak. If I then cbet 1/2 - 2/3 of pot and get called, I have no idea what to do on the turn. Is villain just another 11s donk who can't get rid of his overs or does he really has something this time? Poof, my stack is 1/3 lighter and I just can't help thinking that it would just cost me t15 if I fold preflop.

Playing against weak tight predictable player (like me /images/graemlins/laugh.gif) this hand would be easy, but common VP$IP 50% PFR 15% this hand comes nightmare because you can't really put him on any hand.

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Then call off 3% of your stack for set value. That's at least better than folding here.
Sciolist
12-02-2005, 08:31 AM
To be honest, I'm mostly worried about the fact people want to call down with AK vs. a check raise here. I guess my play isn't ideal for $11 SNG...