Compare three bubble situations...

Tell me what the LOWEST hand you could have to push in each of these situations. Assume that nobody is overly loose nor overly tight.


Hero ( $1250 )
SB ( $1115 )
BB ( $1750 )
UTG ( $3885 )
Blinds(100/200)

Dealt to Hero [ _____,_____ ]
UTG folds, Hero ...


SB (t2409)
BB (t210)
UTG (t1090)
Hero (t4291)
Blinds (100/200)

Dealt to Hero [ ______, ______].
UTG folds, Hero...


Hero ( $1350 )
BB ( $1015 )
UTG ( $1750 )
Button ( $3885 )
Blinds(100/200)

Dealt to Hero [ _____,______ ]
UTG folds, Button folds, Hero ...

[EnderIII]

Question says lowest hand i could have, doesn't mean I'll always push with these hands, but...

1st hand 54s

2nd hand not even aces, pushing not in best interest, want to extend bubble not end it as chipleader, so don't discourage action by pushing with good hands and fold weak hands

3rd hand i'd almost push with one card here....so any two will do

[splashpot]

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2nd hand not even aces, pushing not in best interest, want to extend bubble not end it as chipleader, so don't discourage action by pushing with good hands and fold weak hands

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If you don't play, SB obviously will. So folding aces will not necesarrily extend the bubble. Folding aces is clearly wrong.

[Freudian]

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2nd hand not even aces, pushing not in best interest, want to extend bubble not end it as chipleader, so don't discourage action by pushing with good hands and fold weak hands

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If you don't play, SB obviously will. So folding aces will not necesarrily extend the bubble. Folding aces is clearly wrong.

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And if SB is the timid type, I don't mind calling with decent cards here. At the lower limits many players are really horny to get ITM, even when they have a giant stack and could push you away with any two here, so they will just complete and BB pretty much always gets his money in here. Check down to the river and everyone lives happily ever after.

[EnderIII]

Just because i advised not to push with aces does not in anyway imply that i think it would be proper to fold aces. Consider...gasp...raising less than pushing all in...or even limping to encourage action from other stacks. The negation of pushing is not folding...this is a ridiculous interpretation of my post.

[LotsOfOuts69]

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Tell me what the LOWEST hand you could have to push in each of these situations. Assume that nobody is overly loose nor overly tight.


Hero ( $1250 )
SB ( $1115 )
BB ( $1750 )
UTG ( $3885 )
Blinds(100/200)

Dealt to Hero [ ANY-TWO ]
UTG folds, Hero ...


SB (t2409)
BB (t210)
UTG (t1090)
Hero (t4291)
Blinds (100/200)

Dealt to Hero [ NONE ].
UTG folds, Hero...


Hero ( $1350 )
BB ( $1015 )
UTG ( $1750 )
Button ( $3885 )
Blinds(100/200)

Dealt to Hero [ ANY-TWO ]
UTG folds, Button folds, Hero ...

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DO IT, BE THE BUBBLE, OWN IT.

[bennies]

hand 1: top 40%
hand 2: top 20%
hand 3: top 60%

We're pretty close to any two territory in hands 1 and 3 I think. Hand 2 is almost a fold any 2 situation unless you think SB will fold to a push a good % of the time (which certainly happens at my stakes /images/graemlins/smile.gif).

[Sciolist]

Hand 1: I'd be looking for KJ+, A~5+, 44+

Hand 2: I'd rather I had 23 - in which case, I'm all-in. I want shorty to stay alive, because I want to hurt the others on the bubble. That doesn't mean I'm going to pass aces, just that my pushing range is 100% here. There's virtually no chance of being called except by perhaps QQ+ from the other players, and I'm fine with it if BB wins the hand.

Hand 3: I'd be thinking QK+, A9+, 66+

[Sciolist]

Looks like I have a rather different idea than most. I'd rather be pushing people around in Hand 2. I don't really want to knock him out.

Why do people advocate wider ranges in hand 3 than hand 1? You have worse position and have a large stack yet to act. Surely that requires a smaller range?

In Hand 3, you're SB and it's folded to you. That means only one guy left to act. In Hand 1, you have two people left to act (SB and BB). So in Hand 3, its less likely BB has anything decent, and regardless, he'll only call your push with top 15% or maybe even less. In Hand 1, two people left to act, there's a chance one of them may have AX or KX, and assuming their calling range is the same, its more likely one of them will actually call you.

For Hand 2, you're big stack, so you just want to minraise or 3X raise (minraise is usually fine because a minraise at this lvl is almost equivalent to 3X raise) to steal, or to get some action.