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Sabrazack
12-01-2005, 07:58 PM
Simple question, am i ahead here enough to continue with the hand? And if so how.

NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee

Level:1 Blinds(10/15)
Seat 2 is the buttone
Total number of players : 9
Seat 9: HERO ( $775 )
Seat 7: efitz8 ( $920 )
Seat 6: danny313 ( $2045 )
Seat 3: Joel84 ( $665 )
Seat 5: julian2006 ( $520 )
Seat 10: robochimp72 ( $745 )
Seat 4: italianrage ( $800 )
Seat 2: BallDeep007 ( $755 )
Seat 8: billl1018 ( $775 )
Blinds(10/15)

** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to HERO [ Kd As ]
julian2006 folds.
danny313 raises [30].
efitz8 folds.
billl1018 folds.
HERO calls [30].
robochimp72 folds.
BallDeep007 folds.
Joel84 folds.
italianrage raises [45].
danny313 calls [30].
HERO calls [30].

** Dealing Flop ** [ 7h, Kh, 8d ]
italianrage checks.
danny313 bets [65].
HERO raises [210].
italianrage raises [355].
danny313 folds.
HERO ??

12-01-2005, 08:08 PM
i am a noob, but he rr a pfr, maybe i am giving too much credit, but this early, i lay it down.

12-01-2005, 08:13 PM
Considering he didn't push, I don't think he is on a draw. I think he has a set. The only thing that leads me to believe no way two pairs is that he reraised preflop, but a weird raise. Tough call, but I would lay it down I think.

splashpot
12-01-2005, 08:14 PM
I would have raised to ~120 preflop.

pineapple888
12-01-2005, 08:15 PM
Well, since you called behind with AK pre-flop, you have to push here. That's the point, to trap the weaker kings. Not that I would have played it that way pre-flop.

pooh74
12-01-2005, 08:17 PM
I think you have to put him squarely on AA here to say you're behind.

He RR'd PF. This takes any set except for KK out of his range. (KK is very unlikely obviously bc you have one). So the RR PF puts him in the TT+ AQ+ or so range. The flop looks a lot like AK, or AA.

pineapple888
12-01-2005, 08:19 PM
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Well, since you called behind with AK pre-flop, you have to push here. That's the point, to trap the weaker kings. Not that I would have played it that way pre-flop.

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Although, now that I look at it again, he made a couple of "I have aces" raises. Who knows at this point. That's why I would have raised it up pre-flop.

bones
12-01-2005, 08:24 PM
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I think you have to put him squarely on AA here to say you're behind.

He RR'd PF. This takes any set except for KK out of his range.

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It's not like he put in a massive pf raise. He min-3bet. Come on, I don't think you can narrow it down to aces at all here.

pineapple888
12-01-2005, 08:27 PM
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I think you have to put him squarely on AA here to say you're behind.

He RR'd PF. This takes any set except for KK out of his range.

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It's not like he put in a massive pf raise. He min-3bet. Come on, I don't think you can narrow it down to aces at all here.

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That was my point, it's the slightly-higher-than-minraises that scream out "Aces". But I guess I'm having trouble following the action in the format above. I'll take your word for it.

pooh74
12-01-2005, 08:30 PM
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I think you have to put him squarely on AA here to say you're behind.

He RR'd PF. This takes any set except for KK out of his range.

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It's not like he put in a massive pf raise. He min-3bet. Come on, I don't think you can narrow it down to aces at all here.

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Thats not what I said...I said "You'd have to put him ON aces to say you're behind here" because its not a set (99.9%), and TPTK is good on this board against all but aces. He's played it like aces, but it doesnt mean it is. what % of the time he has them here? I think less than half so I'd call.

pooh74
12-01-2005, 08:32 PM
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Considering he didn't push, I don't think he is on a draw. I think he has a set. The only thing that leads me to believe no way two pairs is that he reraised preflop, but a weird raise. Tough call, but I would lay it down I think.

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You RR pf there with 88 or 77?!?! its not a set...unless he played it very badly...which is always possible I guess.

bones
12-01-2005, 08:32 PM
Sorry, I guess I misread that. Kneejerk reaction to the insanely limited ranges that are suggested on this forum.

pooh74
12-01-2005, 08:33 PM
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Sorry, I guess I misread that. Kneejerk reaction to the insanely limited ranges that are suggested on this forum.

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np...I was worried it might be construed that way. my bad.