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12-01-2005, 10:40 AM
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MP2 is a LAG. PT is showing 31.93%/21.96%/3.13/14.81% (VP$IP/PFR/Post Flop agg factor/WtSD)

The previous hand I watched MP2 raise with QTo, fire a pot sized bet at a flop of rags. Fire another pot size bet on a missed turn. Check call a 1/2 pot bet on the river to show Q high.

MP2 ($111.15)
MP3 ($94.50)
CO ($147.56)
Button ($211.90)
SB ($119.17)
BB ($100)
UTG ($98.84)
Hero ($127)
UTG+2 ($83)
MP1 ($97.50)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/heart.gif, Q/images/graemlins/club.gif. SB posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, MP2 calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, Button calls $4, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: ($13.50) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 8/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $12</font>, Button folds, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $24</font>, MP2 calls $12.

Good flop for Q's. I'm not liking my position so I tried to turn it around a bit and set up for a check raise with an aggressor on my left. Is this a good line so far? Should I've raised more? Or is this line against the idea of playing a pair for a small pot? Should I've called?

Turn: ($61.50) A/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">Hero bets $25</font>, MP2 calls $25.

Okay, that's not a great turn card. I just watched him take overcards to the river. What do I do here? Should I've fired more or go weak tight and check/fold?

River: ($111.50) J/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 bets $35</font>, Hero calls $35.

The previous hand is really ringing in my head when he bets. I put him on a A, but I just could not get away from the Q's. I guess I was hoping for a KJ. Should've laid this down getting 4 to 1 on my money?

Final Pot: $181.50

I am not concerned with the results. I would like to know what others think of how I played the hand.

Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
Hero has Qh Qc (one pair, queens).
MP2 has Ac As (three of a kind, aces).
Outcome: MP2 wins $181.50. </font>

fuzzbox
12-01-2005, 10:46 AM
Lead the flop, dont check/raise (certainly dont check-minraise).

Bet the turn properly, not 25 into a 60 pot.
And check/call the river is fine.

Essentially - against this particular flavour of moron (who can play Q-high for so much money) you are going to lose some chips with QQ here.

Isura
12-01-2005, 10:50 AM
Yeah, lead this flop. It makes the hand easier to play and keeps the pot smaller. You only have 1 pair at this point. The river call is a must against this opponent. Too bad it didn't work out this time.

12-01-2005, 11:03 AM
I was hoping to take the pot with the check raise. I agree the min-raise was bad, no horrible, but the raise button is so tempting.

The turn bet. How much should I've bet? Why? I felt I was beat at this point.

fuzzbox
12-01-2005, 11:30 AM
If you feel that you are beat on the turn then you should check/fold.

I dont want to win the pot against this guy, I want to take as much from him with a hand that figures to be WAAAAY ahead of his range of hands.

Bet pot flop, bet pot turn (fold a raise), and then probably check/call river. Sucks that you lose to AAA, but if he can play QT for lots, then he can play many hands that you beat for lots.