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Jakob
12-01-2005, 09:56 AM
***** Hand History for Game 3125283063 *****
NL Texas Hold'em $30 Buy-in + $3 Entry Fee Trny:17882307 Level:5 Blinds(75/150) - Thursday, December 01, 08:48:40 EDT 2005
Table Table 66962 (Real Money)
Seat 10 is the button
Total number of players : 7
Seat 1: pukebubble ( $800 )
Seat 2: Hero ( $1000 )
Seat 4: tamle911 ( $1265 )
Seat 5: Jetfixer03 ( $150 )
Seat 6: thecaptain9 ( $2200 )
Seat 7: CPappy ( $820 )
Seat 10: B_LEGIT_ ( $1765 )
Trny:17882307 Level:5
Blinds(75/150)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Hero [ 9h 9s ]
tamle911 folds.
Jetfixer03 folds.
thecaptain9 raises [400].
CPappy folds.
B_LEGIT_ folds.
pukebubble folds.
Hero ?

12-01-2005, 09:58 AM
He would probably raise with lots of garbage. You have around 6BB's before posting. I'd shove with 9s here.

AllinDan
12-01-2005, 09:59 AM
How'd Villain get his stack? has he been raising a lot? I probably push here and run into TT.

Jakob
12-01-2005, 10:10 AM
I 10 table, so I got no reads unfortunately!

skipperbob
12-01-2005, 10:11 AM
Insta-Push

Insty
12-01-2005, 10:42 AM
I think your position here is too sucky to be able to wait for a better hand.
<10BB. zero FE against Seat 5. Big stack in seat 6. Guy who should be getting desparate in seat 7.
Any open push you make is getting called by at least one of these guys.

So I probably push here, run into 88 and get sucked out on.

bennies
12-01-2005, 10:57 AM
Don't be boring. Call, and checkraise allin on a non-A flop.

bigt439
12-01-2005, 12:46 PM
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Don't be boring. Call, and checkraise allin on a non-A flop.

[/ QUOTE ]

Barf.

Let 'er rip pf.

tigerite
12-01-2005, 01:03 PM
I would move all-in here, and possibly with 88. However, with 77, I would consider a stop and go.

12-01-2005, 01:34 PM
i agree, i think ur a coinflip at worst, 3 to 1 favorite most likely...push that!

jeffraider
12-01-2005, 02:36 PM
I feel strongly that your chips should be moving into the middle before the flop.

12-01-2005, 02:43 PM
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I feel strongly that your chips should be moving into the middle before the flop.

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oh yeah, well i strong agree!

bennies
12-01-2005, 02:49 PM
Fine, barf at my line if you must /images/graemlins/mad.gif

For the record (who gives a dam) I push this everytime myself. Still I want to make an argument for calling and checkpushing any non-A flop. Feel free to make counter-ARGUMENTS /images/graemlins/smirk.gif .


If a non-A flop comes, the two lines are similar. 80% of the time villain will c-bet and pot commit himself to call our push.

If flop comes with an A, Hero check-folds and looses 400 chips. This sucks, but it's better than going broke, and we're likely behind at this point. Basically, the only hands we beat are KQ, 66-88. Unless villain is LAG everything else only gives us two outs for the set.

By the way, I assume we have no preflop FE.

schwza
12-01-2005, 05:17 PM
villain may be raising a lot of hands that look nothing like KQ/66/etc. folding on an A high flop is bad.

i also like the preF push.

bigt439
12-02-2005, 12:43 AM
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Fine, barf at my line if you must /images/graemlins/mad.gif

For the record (who gives a dam) I push this everytime myself. Still I want to make an argument for calling and checkpushing any non-A flop. Feel free to make counter-ARGUMENTS /images/graemlins/smirk.gif .


If a non-A flop comes, the two lines are similar. 80% of the time villain will c-bet and pot commit himself to call our push.

If flop comes with an A, Hero check-folds and looses 400 chips. This sucks, but it's better than going broke, and we're likely behind at this point. Basically, the only hands we beat are KQ, 66-88. Unless villain is LAG everything else only gives us two outs for the set.

By the way, I assume we have no preflop FE.

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This presupposes that villain is c-betting when he misses, but only betting an A high flop with an A. I think you're out thinking yourself here.

bennies
12-02-2005, 05:44 AM
That's a good answer. Ok. Maybe if villain was utg my range for him would be more adequate (and thus my line would have more merit).