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trevor
11-30-2005, 06:24 PM
Hero has nothing of mention in the image department. I played one hand against villain where i opened w/ 55, he called and I checked a J/images/graemlins/heart.gif 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif x/images/graemlins/spade.gif flop. He bet, I attempted to delay-bluff by calling but decided to fold a 10/images/graemlins/club.gif turn.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed) converter (http://www.selachian.com/tools/bisonconverter/hhconverter.cgi)

UTG ($99)
UTG+1 ($104.50)
MP1 ($34.75)
MP2 ($182.60)
MP3 ($52.65)
CO ($46.10)
Button ($16.10)
Hero ($102.15)
BB ($95.25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises to $3</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, MP2 calls $3, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $16</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls $13, MP2 folds.

Flop: ($36) 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, J/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/spade.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font><font color="#CC3333">

% of time you bet the flop w/ no read? LAG? TAG? Donk? <font color="black"> </font>

Murderous
11-30-2005, 06:29 PM
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% of time you bet the flop w/ no read? LAG? TAG? Donk?

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75%, 50%, 0%, 100%

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swolfe
11-30-2005, 07:29 PM
100%

the machine
11-30-2005, 07:58 PM
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75%, 50%, 0%, 100%

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100% against a donkey???? donkeys call raises pf with bad aces and play them for all their chips. this is a real bad strategy. Bet out against a tag and find out where youre at, every now and the with a lag and no reads i bet this almost every time

pmuir10
11-30-2005, 08:08 PM
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100% against a donkey!!!!donkeys call raises pf with tons of junkand play them for all their chips. this is a fine strategy because they will call you're flop bet with a wide range of worse hands here

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FYP

el_grande
11-30-2005, 08:13 PM
I agree and I think you can make just a $15 bet.

There is no reasonable diamond draw he could be on after calling that reraise. The hand you don't want to be against is AQ because it beats you and probably doesn't raise you. AA, AK, AJ,and JJ probably raise you out of the hand on the flop. QQ is put to the test with the $15.

the machine
11-30-2005, 08:18 PM
ive seen many of donks dump pairs boarded or pocket with an ace on board. and ive seen plenty of donks call raises with any ace and shove them in. when against a donk who i know plays any ace pf if there is an ace on board i slow down. thats my line because im sick of seeing a4 suit and a6 off turn up when i make it 16pf 1/2 nl with kk on an ace board. donks like to hit a hand where they think they are best but really are behind. youll see qq-99 turn up here from a donk but i dont see much more turn up that you are ahead from..... esp from a donk. IMO

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because they will call you're flop bet with a wide range of worse hands here

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donks do fold. if you want to be on the extreme edge and say the donk who calls anything ie 22 on this board then yes bet it up. i think u will find you are behind if you get called more times then not. again IMO

pmuir10
11-30-2005, 08:39 PM
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and ive seen plenty of donks call raises with any ace and shove them in.

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so have i. but i dont think they can even statistically be dealt an ace enough percentage of the time here to make me consider not betting.. not to mention the times they fold A7o and down PF..

trevor
11-30-2005, 11:23 PM
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100%

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A while ago I would have said this sucks but I think this is the right answer. Fits my style basically. BTW I bet $25 on the flop and he called. I check-folded to his push for $68ish on the turn. My read is AA or AK there.