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TPupAZ
11-30-2005, 06:00 PM
This hand is something similar to something i've encountered as of late. when i'm in the 2nd or third position, i'm folding some high hands to early position raises. questions is, how much respect do you give while you in early -middle to raises behind you. here's the example hand.

Cryptologic 1.00/2.00 Hold'em <font color="#0000FF">(10 handed)</font> link (http://www.darksun.lunarpages.com/poker/)

Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with Q/images/graemlins/spade.gif, K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif.
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises</font>, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, CO calls, <font color="#666666">3 folds</font>.

Flop: (5.50 SB) 3/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 3/images/graemlins/heart.gif, K/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO calls.

Turn: (3.75 BB) 5/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO calls.

River: (5.75 BB) 9/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, CO calls.

Final Pot: 7.75 BB.
TheHammer24
11-30-2005, 06:10 PM
No way I call in UTG+1 against EP raise unless he is 20% PFR.
Nick C
11-30-2005, 06:11 PM
My default is to fold KQo if there's an EP (or even MP) raise in front of me. I do the same with AJo.
TPupAZ
11-30-2005, 06:22 PM
Ya , uTg+1's was only 9.5% PRF
Harv72b
11-30-2005, 07:18 PM
Very, very standard fold. I also fold AJ there, and against passive opponents will fold AQ.
TPupAZ
11-30-2005, 07:25 PM
Thanks for everone who has responded. Advice noted. /images/graemlins/smile.gif
pokernicus
11-30-2005, 08:37 PM
Like others, I default fold here, but I also pay attention to the hand -- especially on a showdown to see what my opponent has, so I have a sense of his raising standards. Sometimes people raise with real garbage -- in which case, I may even three-bet KQ to isolate.

It's understandable to be frustrated if you fold a hand and find that the flop would have hit you if you stayed. However, it's important not to be oriented towards short-term outcomes and think instead whether the decision itself was correct.