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So basically I have two offers:
Company 1 has a great location (Boston) and the best benefits package under the sun, offers a very decent salary and great promotion opportunities
Company 2 is located in Seattle and also has a a great benefits package (not as good as 1), good promotion opportunities (not as good as, but close to 1's), and a great salary with a starting bonus the size of company 1's annualized salary.
Company 1 is probably the best in the field while the second company has a good name (you've heard of it), but nothing spectacular.
Which would you go with...bigger/better name and benefits with lower salary or bigger salary?
BradleyT
11-30-2005, 04:54 PM
I'd help but I'm still bracing myself.
RunDownHouse
11-30-2005, 04:55 PM
If you think the opportunities for promotion are good enough such that the present value of your earnings with Company A are greater than the present value of your earnings with Company B, go with A.
What about non-job factors?
I live in Seattle and would rate certain things very high: size, availability of outdoor recreation, food/bar/film/music scene, poker but other things low: super high real estate prices, traffic, proximity to other urban areas, weather.
Do any of those things make a difference, or is this strictly a job decision?
KJS
Warik
11-30-2005, 04:56 PM
1) Would you rather live in Seattle or Boston? How much less would you like to live in X than you would in Y?
2) Define "not as good" with regard to benefit packages and promotion opportunities.
3) Define "great" salary in comparison to "lower" salary.
4) Are either of these companies types of companies you feel like you could work at until you retire? If so, the one with better retirement benefits and promotion opportunities would be the way to go. If not, then take the money and run.
5) Which one is more likely to employ hotter women?
samjjones
11-30-2005, 04:57 PM
Company 1.
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I live in Seattle and would rate certain things ... low: super high real estate prices, traffic
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bad arguments when comparing to boston.
Which job would you enjoy more?
how does the market look for other jobs? something about your post makes me think tech (Micro$oft?), if you end up not liking the job but liking the city, it would be good to consider your options.
offTopic
11-30-2005, 05:08 PM
Hi Yobz,
What do you do, and what to the companies do?
Best regards,
offTopic
BoogerFace
11-30-2005, 05:12 PM
After almost 10 years (post college) living in the Boston area, I'm seriously considering a move to Seattle.
The job market here is slowly shrinking. But Boston is a great place to be under 30.
I think this is more about whether you will be happier in Seattle or Boston. And what part of Seattle/Boston you'll actually be working/living in.
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I'd help but I'm still bracing myself.
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You can keep bracing, I won't get to that thing for a while...
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What about non-job factors?
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I prefer Boston (closer to family, more bar/young scene, close to other big cities). I lived in Seattle over the summer and thought it was a tiny bit of a drag...not live enough.
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2) Define "not as good" with regard to benefit packages and promotion opportunities.
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Comp 1 gives free gym membership, no vesting time for 401k plan, full blown medical, cheap company store, tuition re-imbursement, and a cpl other things.
Promotion: Both have decent promotion plans, but cmpy 1 is a lot more formal and has certain goals to get you that next level, cmpy 2 is a lot more haphazard about it
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3) Define "great" salary in comparison to "lower" salary.
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~10k difference and no starting bonus vs huge starting bonus
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4) Are either of these companies types of companies you feel like you could work at until you retire? If so, the one with better retirement benefits and promotion opportunities would be the way to go. If not, then take the money and run.
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I could see myself at cmpny 1 for a long time, not too sure about cpny 2 yet
As for hot chicks, both have decent pr and hr chicks /images/graemlins/smile.gif
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What do you do, and what to the companies do?
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programming/tech stuff
BradleyT
11-30-2005, 05:42 PM
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What do you do, and what to the companies do?
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programming/tech stuff
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I'll take whichever one you don't want then.
highlife
11-30-2005, 05:49 PM
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super high real estate prices, traffic, weather.
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the funny thing is boston is actually considerably worse than seattle in all these areas.
Publos Nemesis
11-30-2005, 05:57 PM
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super high real estate prices, traffic, weather.
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the funny thing is boston is actually considerably worse than seattle in all these areas.
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boston is much more $ than seattle. seattle is cheap compared to boston, new york, and san francisco.
you should definitely go with the long-run ev. even if B pays you more now, how much more money will A get you down the road? on the other hand, where can you stand out and be and all-star? that will help propel you down the road as well. also investigate office dynamics. an office that parties hard is much more fun than a serious office.
Boris
11-30-2005, 06:08 PM
Your question belongs here (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=beats)
dcasper70
11-30-2005, 06:33 PM
If you take the money out of the equation, where would you go?
That's where you go.
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If you take the money out of the equation, where would you go?
That's where you go.
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That might be the answer I needed...I guess money will come to me eventually, I should just do what I like and forget about it.
daveymck
11-30-2005, 07:03 PM
It sounds like you are realtively young and dont have responsibilities ie family mortgage etc, so I dont think money should be an overriding issue for you as long as both pay reasonably well.
Have to weigh up which company is likely to get you forward to where you want to be in years to come, ie promotion, training, type of work experience etc etc etc.
From how you wrote it company 1 is the one you want to go for.
MrMon
11-30-2005, 07:04 PM
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If you take the money out of the equation, where would you go?
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This is a good answer. However, if it looks like Boston is the answer, I'd seriously consider using the Seatle offer as leverage to get a few more bucks out of Boston. Something along the lines of "I'd really like to work for you guys, but look what Seattle is offering. Can you tempt me into working in Boston?" All without revealing you'd choose to work there anyway.
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If you take the money out of the equation, where would you go?
That's where you go.
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This is a good answer. However, if it looks like Boston is the answer, I'd seriously consider using the Seatle offer as leverage to get a few more bucks out of Boston. Something along the lines of "I'd really like to work for you guys, but look what Seattle is offering. Can you tempt me into working in Boston?" All without revealing you'd choose to work there anyway.
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Already did that. As a matter of fact, the Boston offer's company is based right around Seattle...but they didn't budge.
coffeecrazy1
11-30-2005, 07:21 PM
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super high real estate prices, traffic, weather.
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the funny thing is boston is actually considerably worse than seattle in all these areas.
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boston is much more $ than seattle. seattle is cheap compared to boston, new york, and san francisco.
you should definitely go with the long-run ev. even if B pays you more now, how much more money will A get you down the road? on the other hand, where can you stand out and be and all-star? that will help propel you down the road as well. also investigate office dynamics. an office that parties hard is much more fun than a serious office.
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Also...bear in mind that a lower salary in a place with a lower cost of living might lead to a negligable effect in the higher salary place. It's not about how much you earn, but how much you have left over AFTER your bills are paid(since you're going to have pay for the same things, regardless...food, water, power, living quarters, phone, etc.). $100k in a place like New York is definitely not $100k in Dallas, or possibly Seattle, or wherever.
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If you take the money out of the equation, where would you go?
That's where you go.
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This is ridiculous. Very few of us would show up to work if they didnt pay us. We would all be spring break tour guides or something similar if we didnt factor pay into job decisions. Its retarded not to factor everyting into your decision. Unfortunatly the op is the only one that really knows how important each of these things are to him.
Its your choice. Who cares what anyone else think.
Isura
11-30-2005, 11:34 PM
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Your question belongs here (http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/postlist.php?Cat=&Board=beats)
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I was going to say this. It's like the Brad Pitt dilemma.
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