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11-30-2005, 04:35 PM
Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t15 (10 handed)

UTG (t800)
UTG+1 (t800)
UTG+2 (t800)
MP1 (t800)
MP2 (t800)
MP3 :#A500AF(Villian#1)/ (t800)
CO (t800)
Button :#A500AF(Villian#2)/ (t800)
Hero (t800)
BB (t800)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 2/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 9/images/graemlins/club.gif.
<font color="#666666">3 folds</font>, MP1 calls t15, MP2 calls t15, MP3 :#A500AF(Villian#1)/ calls t15, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Button :#A500AF(Villian#2)/ calls t15, Hero completes, BB checks.

Flop: (t87.50) T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, 9/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif <font color="#0000FF">(6 players)</font>
Hero checks, BB checks, MP1 checks, MP2 checks, Villian#1 checks, <font color="#CC3333">Villian#2 bets t100</font>, Hero calls t100, BB folds, MP1 folds, MP2 folds, Villian#1 calls [t785] , Villian#2 calls [t685] t100, Hero ????



So should I lay this down? Or do I have to call because this is a Party sng and there are only so many opportunities to collect chips in the fast structure? What would all you good players do?

11-30-2005, 04:38 PM
Lay Down. No flush draw out there. People aren't going all in with absolutely nothing. Maybe 1 person would have an over pair or top pair, but it is definitely possible the other 9 is in someones hand.

pineapple888
11-30-2005, 04:38 PM
I call very quickly at the $22s. You'll see top pair, a straight draw, random pairs, and random crap way too often to let this go.

If somebody has the case 9 or outdraws me, so be it.

splashpot
11-30-2005, 04:39 PM
When you check the flop, you should be looking to check/raise. So I wouldn't call that 100, I would pop it to maybe 300. If you do that, you'd have to call an all in.

junkmail3
11-30-2005, 04:40 PM
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Lay Down. No flush draw out there. People aren't going all in with absolutely nothing. Maybe 1 person would have an over pair or top pair, but it is definitely possible the other 9 is in someones hand.

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This is true. Or TT. But I might just call anyway. If someone has 98, then any 9/T/J/Q/K/A is a split.

If you are up against TT, you're screwed. If you're up against AA/KK/QQ/JJ which is very possible, you're ahead and they have 2 outs.

I call. You're only really worried about 9x and TT.

That's good enough for me to get 3:1 on.

11-30-2005, 04:40 PM
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When you check the flop, you should be looking to check/raise. So I wouldn't call that 100, I would pop it to maybe 300. If you do that, you'd have to call an all in.

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Ya, that's a good point...not sure why I check/called there

11-30-2005, 04:44 PM
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Lay Down. No flush draw out there. People aren't going all in with absolutely nothing. Maybe 1 person would have an over pair or top pair, but it is definitely possible the other 9 is in someones hand.

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This is true. Or TT. But I might just call anyway. If someone has 98, then any 9/T/J/Q/K/A is a split.

If you are up against TT, you're screwed. If you're up against AA/KK/QQ/JJ which is very possible, you're ahead and they have 2 outs.

I call. You're only really worried about 9x and TT.

That's good enough for me to get 3:1 on.

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I dunno, AA-JJ you can usually expect a raise pre-flop, especially from players in late position, so the only hands I could be up against are 1010, 10x, 9x, and maaaybe somethin like QJ or 78. With just one player going all in, I'm calling for sure, but with a check/raise all in, and an insta-call...I'm leaning toward fold.