What are your thoughts on the continuous shuffle now?

[Scuba Chuck]

Check the time on each of these hands. How does this make you feel? Warm and comfy?

***** Hand History for Game 3113649563 *****
15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 17821479) - Tue Nov 29 01:28:21 EST 2005
Table Table 66818 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: Scuba_Chuck (800)
Seat 2: SeatownTilt (800)
Seat 3: marksaal (795)
Seat 4: SKULLEY (1000)
Seat 5: jp2015 (770)
Seat 6: shortbus1662 (665)
Seat 7: southpaw20 (775)
Seat 8: roonuts (770)
Seat 9: thejoy29 (890)
Seat 10: ngvato (735)
ngvato posts small blind (10)
Scuba_Chuck posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Scuba_Chuck [ Jh, Jc ]
SeatownTilt folds.
marksaal calls (15)
SKULLEY raises (80) to 80
jp2015 folds.
shortbus1662 folds.
southpaw20 folds.
roonuts folds.
thejoy29 folds.
ngvato folds.
Scuba_Chuck calls (65)
marksaal calls (65)
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 2s, 7s ]
Scuba_Chuck checks.
marksaal checks.
SKULLEY bets (275)
Scuba_Chuck calls (275)
marksaal folds.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Ac ]
Scuba_Chuck checks.
SKULLEY checks.
** Dealing River ** : [ 9h ]
Scuba_Chuck bets (445)
Scuba_Chuck is all-In.
SKULLEY calls (445)
Creating Main Pot with $1690 with Scuba_Chuck
** Summary **
Main Pot: 1690 |
Board: [ 8d 2s 7s Ac 9h ]
Scuba_Chuck balance 1690, bet 800, collected 1690, net +890 [ Jh Jc ] [ a pair of jacks -- Ac,Jh,Jc,9h,8d ]
SeatownTilt balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
marksaal balance 715, lost 80 (folded)
SKULLEY balance 200, lost 800 [ 8s Qs ] [ a pair of eights -- Ac,Qs,9h,8s,8d ]
jp2015 balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
shortbus1662 balance 665, didn't bet (folded)
southpaw20 balance 775, didn't bet (folded)
roonuts balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
thejoy29 balance 890, didn't bet (folded)
ngvato balance 725, lost 10 (folded)

***** Hand History for Game 3113649325 *****
15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 17821598) - Tue Nov 29 01:28:18 EST 2005
Table Table 67204 (Real Money) -- Seat 3 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: jhurv (800)
Seat 2: VemqueePica (800)
Seat 3: atlpr8head (790)
Seat 4: jwalkerus (785)
Seat 5: stwlf (785)
Seat 6: Scuba_Chuck (800)
Seat 7: dough_ray_me (800)
Seat 8: adeezie (800)
Seat 9: shengao (800)
Seat 10: rockhounder (840)
jwalkerus posts small blind (10)
stwlf posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Scuba_Chuck [ Js, Jc ]
Scuba_Chuck calls (15)
dough_ray_me calls (15)
adeezie folds.
shengao calls (15)
rockhounder folds.
jhurv calls (15)
VemqueePica folds.
atlpr8head folds.
jwalkerus calls (5)
stwlf checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 8d, 6h, Qd ]
jwalkerus checks.
stwlf checks.
Scuba_Chuck checks.
dough_ray_me bets (200)
shengao folds.
jhurv folds.
jwalkerus did not respond in time.
jwalkerus folds.
stwlf folds.
Scuba_Chuck calls (200)
** Dealing Turn ** : [ Th ]
Scuba_Chuck checks.
dough_ray_me bets (200)
Scuba_Chuck calls (200)
** Dealing River ** : [ Jh ]
Scuba_Chuck checks.
dough_ray_me checks.
** Summary **
Main Pot: 890
Board: [ 8d 6h Qd Th Jh ]
jhurv balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
VemqueePica balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
atlpr8head balance 790, didn't bet (folded)
jwalkerus balance 770, lost 15 (folded)
stwlf balance 770, lost 15 (folded)
Scuba_Chuck balance 1275, bet 415, collected 890, net +475 [ Js Jc ] [ three of a kind, jacks -- Qd,Js,Jc,Jh,Th ]
dough_ray_me balance 385, lost 415 [ As Qh ] [ a pair of queens -- As,Qh,Qd,Jh,Th ]
adeezie balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
shengao balance 785, lost 15 (folded)
rockhounder balance 840, didn't bet (folded)


***** Hand History for Game 3113649437 *****
15/30 Tourney Texas Hold'em Game Table (NL) (Tournament 17821435) - Tue Nov 29 01:28:19 EST 2005
Table Table 67779 (Real Money) -- Seat 9 is the button
Total number of players : 10
Seat 1: hcisac (1415)
Seat 2: ChaseThisDwn (770)
Seat 3: KING3838 (800)
Seat 4: Jmac11122 (800)
Seat 5: bolanos2003 (60)
Seat 6: maximilian9 (1220)
Seat 7: sharkswim1 (775)
Seat 8: jtr2001 (615)
Seat 9: cbuckingham (820)
Seat 10: Scuba_Chuck (725)
Scuba_Chuck posts small blind (10)
hcisac posts big blind (15)
** Dealing down cards **
Dealt to Scuba_Chuck [ Jc, Jd ]
ChaseThisDwn folds.
KING3838 calls (15)
Jmac11122 folds.
bolanos2003 folds.
maximilian9 folds.
sharkswim1 calls (15)
jtr2001 calls (15)
cbuckingham calls (15)
Scuba_Chuck calls (5)
hcisac checks.
** Dealing Flop ** : [ 7c, 6d, Js ]
Scuba_Chuck checks.
hcisac checks.
KING3838 checks.
sharkswim1 checks.
jtr2001 checks.
cbuckingham checks.
** Dealing Turn ** : [ 9c ]
Scuba_Chuck bets (90)
hcisac folds.
KING3838 calls (90)
sharkswim1 calls (90)
jtr2001 folds.
cbuckingham calls (90)
** Dealing River ** : [ Th ]
Scuba_Chuck checks.
KING3838 bets (150)
sharkswim1 folds.
cbuckingham folds.
Scuba_Chuck calls (150)
** Summary **
Main Pot: 750
Board: [ 7c 6d Js 9c Th ]
hcisac balance 1400, lost 15 (folded)
ChaseThisDwn balance 770, didn't bet (folded)
KING3838 balance 1295, bet 255, collected 750, net +495 [ 8s Qs ] [ a straight, eight to queen -- Qs,Js,Th,9c,8s ]
Jmac11122 balance 800, didn't bet (folded)
bolanos2003 balance 60, didn't bet (folded)
maximilian9 balance 1220, didn't bet (folded)
sharkswim1 balance 670, lost 105 (folded)
jtr2001 balance 600, lost 15 (folded)
cbuckingham balance 715, lost 105 (folded)
Scuba_Chuck balance 470, lost 255 [ Jc Jd ] [ three of a kind, jacks -- Jc,Jd,Js,Th,9c ]

[durron597]

Whatever man, you were in a different seat for all of them.

[pooh74]

If i had a nickel for every time someone told me about this happening, I'd have 10 cents. Standard (given xxxxxxxx attempts, which is about right)

[citanul]

quite warm and comfy.

now go through and find us like, 10000000 examples from your hand history database where something totally random looking happened.

random events sometimes randomly look very organized.

c

I'm not sure what you're getting at.

[tigerite]

My thoughts are you're a lucksack on the 2nd hand.

[microbet]

I wouldn't have played the hands the same, but you weren't asking about the hands, so I'll limit my comments to: Why'd you bet the river on the first hand? Superstition is the mind-killer. And, what are you talking about, continuous shuffle?

[sng-sam]

different tables. It's wierd but not unreasonable. The one that gets me is when 4 people are all in and it's AA KK QQ and JJ or AK

Straight Flushes,

SAM

[GtrHtr]

Besides PP, I'm curious what other sites use the continuous shuffle. Specifically, does Stars?

[downtown]

Wouldn't it be wierder if this never happened?

[GtrHtr]

[ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't have played the hands the same, but you weren't asking about the hands, so I'll limit my comments to: Why'd you bet the river on the first hand? Superstition is the mind-killer. And, what are you talking about, continuous shuffle?

[/ QUOTE ]

Party uses a continuous shuffle. That is the cards are in constant shuffle throughout the hand vs a set deck at the beginning of the hand like happens at a B&M cardroom.

[Scuba Chuck]

[ QUOTE ]
My thoughts are you're a lucksack on the 2nd hand.

[/ QUOTE ]

/images/graemlins/blush.gif

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

how come you are so passive w/ JJ with all of your hands? You had limpers, you hit 2 sets, the heart flush was a back door flush... shouldn't you be more aggressive w/ JJ?

[adanthar]

My thoughts are: raise PF :P, fold the flop in hand 2, bet the flop in hand 3, and give some thought to folding on the river in 3 because he's not bluffing into 3 people (but I'd probably call, but not if it was 2/3 pot).

[Benholio]

Would you notice if it was JcTd, Jc2h, JcAc? All those hands share the jack of clubs too...

[Scuba Chuck]

[ QUOTE ]
how come you are so passive w/ JJ with all of your hands? You had limpers, you hit 2 sets, the heart flush was a back door flush... shouldn't you be more aggressive w/ JJ?

[/ QUOTE ]

Hand 1:
Preflop: no comment
Postflop: I wanted to see what he'd do on the turn before I decide what I was gonna do. I usually think raises like that preflop are pairs, or strong aces. I was interested in seeing a turn card first. The ace was the one card I didn't want to see, but he checked it through. So he either had a monster, or crap.

Hand 2:
Preflop: "hooks UTG"
Postflop: LOL. No comment at this time.

Hand 3:
Preflop: I always raise here on Level 2+. Level 1 I can go either way.
Postflop: I checked the flop because my position sucked, hoping to check raise or check call. The board is a little coordinated, but not so much so that I was scared. In retrospect, a bet here might have been better. The turn was beginning to make me feel uncomfortable. It now put the flush draw on the board too. I'm not too worried about T8 or 58. Comments on the best bet amount on the turn? River was one of three cards I did not want to see.

[Nicholasp27]

[ QUOTE ]

Party uses a continuous shuffle. That is the cards are in constant shuffle throughout the hand vs a set deck at the beginning of the hand like happens at a B&M cardroom.

[/ QUOTE ]

which means that the exact millisecond that u click the 'call' button on someone with a 1-outer determines if u get sucked out on or not...so if u do, u have nobody to blame but yourself!

[eurythmech]

What site is this, party?

[Scuba Chuck]

[ QUOTE ]
Besides PP, I'm curious what other sites use the continuous shuffle. Specifically, does Stars?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, and I'm in a good mood.

[GtrHtr]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]

Party uses a continuous shuffle. That is the cards are in constant shuffle throughout the hand vs a set deck at the beginning of the hand like happens at a B&M cardroom.

[/ QUOTE ]

which means that the exact millisecond that u click the 'call' button on someone with a 1-outer determines if u get sucked out on or not...so if u do, u have nobody to blame but yourself!

[/ QUOTE ]

or just adjust your pattern mapper correctly and you'll always have that one out floating at the bottom of the deck.

[Scuba Chuck]

Back on Topic. I'm pretty indifferent about the coincidence of these three hands. But I do notice quite a few coincidences when I'm 8 tabling. For example, I notice that AA (or KK if that's the hand) happens frequently at a lot of tables at the same time. So, when I see this, I tend to avoid playing in that hand at the moment, or if I'm in the hand, this thought is included in my analysis. It has served me well.

[eurythmech]

Tell me where you play so that I can move my stash there!

[Nicholasp27]

now i need to work on a pre-click chant

no whammies, no whammies, no whammies, STOP!

http://www.choiceshirts.com/images/PL/-0/PL-00129A-md.jpg


maybe i'll make a program that has the whammy guy walk/fly/crawl/bike/drive/etc across the screen whenever u get sucked out on

[microbet]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't have played the hands the same, but you weren't asking about the hands, so I'll limit my comments to: Why'd you bet the river on the first hand? Superstition is the mind-killer. And, what are you talking about, continuous shuffle?

[/ QUOTE ]

Party uses a continuous shuffle. That is the cards are in constant shuffle throughout the hand vs a set deck at the beginning of the hand like happens at a B&M cardroom.

[/ QUOTE ]

Cool. I like that. It will be easier for me to not care what flops when I fold preflop.

[Lori]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Besides PP, I'm curious what other sites use the continuous shuffle. Specifically, does Stars?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, and I'm in a good mood.

[/ QUOTE ]


Stars set the deck before dealing.

Lori

[Lori]

[ QUOTE ]
Back on Topic. I'm pretty indifferent about the coincidence of these three hands. But I do notice quite a few coincidences when I'm 8 tabling. For example, I notice that AA (or KK if that's the hand) happens frequently at a lot of tables at the same time. So, when I see this, I tend to avoid playing in that hand at the moment, or if I'm in the hand, this thought is included in my analysis. It has served me well.

[/ QUOTE ]

3-table 3 different sites at once and you'll either have a conspiracy overload or you'll never worry about it again.

Lori

[pooh74]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Besides PP, I'm curious what other sites use the continuous shuffle. Specifically, does Stars?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, and I'm in a good mood.

[/ QUOTE ]


Stars set the deck before dealing.

Lori

[/ QUOTE ]

Really? I wish I didnt read this...now I have to start looking at what wouldve happened again.

[Dr_Jeckyl_00]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Besides PP, I'm curious what other sites use the continuous shuffle. Specifically, does Stars?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, and I'm in a good mood.

[/ QUOTE ]


Stars set the deck before dealing.

Lori

[/ QUOTE ]

Why does it matter when the deck is set? We do not know what the next card is using either method... /images/graemlins/confused.gif

[jonoo]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
how come you are so passive w/ JJ with all of your hands? You had limpers, you hit 2 sets, the heart flush was a back door flush... shouldn't you be more aggressive w/ JJ?

[/ QUOTE ]

Hand 1:
So he either had a monster, or crap.


[/ QUOTE ]

wouldnt that be more reason to check behind b/c your not gunna get called w/ the crap and your gunna bust to the monster.

[GtrHtr]

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
Besides PP, I'm curious what other sites use the continuous shuffle. Specifically, does Stars?

[/ QUOTE ]

Yes, and I'm in a good mood.

[/ QUOTE ]


Stars set the deck before dealing.

Lori

[/ QUOTE ]

Now this, is very interesting.

[aujoz]

as long as you update your pattern mapper with the log8 calculations, it shouldn't matter whether the deck is set before the hand is dealt, or whether it is on "continuous shuffle."

[fluorescenthippo]

best ive had is QQ on 4 tables at once out of 10

[Scuba Chuck]

About Stars shuffle (http://www.pokerstars.com/security.html)

[Apathy]

Whatever I thought the boards were gonna be the same and everything, I eman you didnt even get the same holecards on each hand.

I also think you played all 3 incorrectly.

[downtown]

[ QUOTE ]
For example, I notice that AA (or KK if that's the hand) happens frequently at a lot of tables at the same time. So, when I see this, I tend to avoid playing in that hand at the moment, or if I'm in the hand, this thought is included in my analysis. It has served me well.

[/ QUOTE ]

I hope you are joking here.