Villain is tricky.

[Maulik]

I've been bringing many hands in and c-betting them.
Not too much resistance.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

CO ($23.85)
Button ($52)
SB ($30.40)
BB ($25.50)
Hero ($53.75)
MP ($67.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
[color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $4</font>, MP calls $4, BB folds.

Turn: ($14.25) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]MP bets $6</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $20.25

What's the standard line?

[Maulik]

I'm thinking lead fold to a raise... but I see him capable of re-popping the turn with air.

[beset7]

Like Caffione wrote, knowing when to fire the second barrel is more art then science. But online, if I were going to make it a science, OOP I like to fire again and fold to a raise. Especially vs. a tricky player who may occassionally float or likes to semi-bluff draws if checked to.

BTW, if you set the converter to 2+2 it won't have all that wierd code stuff I don't think.

[Godfather80]

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I've been bringing many hands in and c-betting them.
Not too much resistance.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

CO ($23.85)
Button ($52)
SB ($30.40)
BB ($25.50)
Hero ($53.75)
MP ($67.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
[color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $4</font>, MP calls $4, BB folds.

Turn: ($14.25) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]MP bets $6</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $20.25

What's the standard line?

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Given hero's self evaluation, does anybody else limp this UTG?

[rachelwxm]

depend on MP3, call down is one option. Check the flop is another one.

[beavens]

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I've been bringing many hands in and c-betting them.
Not too much resistance.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

CO ($23.85)
Button ($52)
SB ($30.40)
BB ($25.50)
Hero ($53.75)
MP ($67.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
[color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $4</font>, MP calls $4, BB folds.

Turn: ($14.25) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]MP bets $6</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $20.25

What's the standard line?

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Given hero's self evaluation, does anybody else limp this UTG?

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movtivation for this?

[Godfather80]

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I've been bringing many hands in and c-betting them.
Not too much resistance.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

CO ($23.85)
Button ($52)
SB ($30.40)
BB ($25.50)
Hero ($53.75)
MP ($67.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
[color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $4</font>, MP calls $4, BB folds.

Turn: ($14.25) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]MP bets $6</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $20.25

What's the standard line?

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Given hero's self evaluation, does anybody else limp this UTG?

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movtivation for this?

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Motivation being that at least one over card is flopping more than 75% of the time and that we are OOP. The hand is probably going to play out in a difficult fashion for us because of these two factors. If we feel that somebody is due to take a stand against us, let's at least have position when they decide to do it. Or, if we are gonna be OOP, let's have a stronger hand than TT.

I'm not saying that limping is right. I'm asking if limping becomes an option considering hero's self evaluation.

[beavens]

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I've been bringing many hands in and c-betting them.
Not too much resistance.


PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.50 BB (6 handed) FTR converter on zerodivide.cx (http://www.zerodivide.cx/converter)

CO ($23.85)
Button ($52)
SB ($30.40)
BB ($25.50)
Hero ($53.75)
MP ($67.45)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with T/images/graemlins/spade.gif, T/images/graemlins/club.gif.
[color=#CC3333]Hero raises to $2</font>, MP calls $2, [color=#666666]3 folds</font>, BB calls $1.50.

Flop: ($6.25) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 4/images/graemlins/spade.gif [color=#0000FF](3 players)</font>
BB checks, [color=#CC3333]Hero bets $4</font>, MP calls $4, BB folds.

Turn: ($14.25) 5/images/graemlins/club.gif [color=#0000FF](2 players)</font>
Hero checks, [color=#CC3333]MP bets $6</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: $20.25

What's the standard line?

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Given hero's self evaluation, does anybody else limp this UTG?

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movtivation for this?

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Motivation being that at least one over card is flopping more than 75% of the time and that we are OOP. The hand is probably going to play out in a difficult fashion for us because of these two factors. If we feel that somebody is due to take a stand against us, let's at least have position when they decide to do it. Or, if we are gonna be OOP, let's have a stronger hand than TT.

I'm not saying that limping is right. I'm asking if limping becomes an option considering hero's self evaluation.

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TT can be a tough hand to play with - i understand your points and i think they are totally valid.

with TT, especially OOP, i like a pfr, leading c-bet and a fold to a raise.

might be a leak, who knows, but of the 75% that an overcard hits, it isn't hitting the villian 100% of the time.

thoughts or comments welcome.

[Mercman572]

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What's the standard line?

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I'm working on the standard line of leaving the table with a tricky villain with position on me /images/graemlins/tongue.gif. Really though, unless you have a fish or calling station on your left you can find a more profitable table/situation. But when I stay I mix in a 2nd barrel, probably only 20% of the time I think.