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baronzeus
11-28-2005, 11:43 PM
UTG something like 34/17, BB loose passive ish, probably 50/5 or something.

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Preflop: Hero is Button with K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, K/images/graemlins/spade.gif.
UTG calls, <font color="#666666">6 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, BB calls, UTG calls.

Flop: (6.50 SB) 6/images/graemlins/club.gif, 9/images/graemlins/heart.gif, 3/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG 3-bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

Turn: (7.75 BB) J/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero calls, BB calls.

River: (10.75 BB) Q/images/graemlins/club.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG bets</font>, Hero folds
krishanleong
11-28-2005, 11:47 PM
You really have to raise the flop or turn. I think you can fold to a 3-bet on the turn from either player so get your bets in then. I think the river fold is okay but the previous street should have been played differently.

Krishan
baronzeus
11-28-2005, 11:49 PM
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You really have to raise the flop or turn. I think you can fold to a 3-bet on the turn from either player so get your bets in then. I think the river fold is okay but the previous street should have been played differently.

Krishan

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yes i was planning on raising any turn but then i saw all that flop action and decided against it. i think i should ahve raised it anyways and just folded to a 3bet.
flawless_victory
11-29-2005, 09:23 AM
baron, youre making me sick.
quit being so fancy and RAISERAISEITTagjergj.
this is an obvious flop raise, and turn "just call" is turbo awful... i understand you are concerned one or both has trhe flush, but this is a big pot... u need to raise or fold.
baronzeus
11-29-2005, 10:36 AM
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baron, youre making me sick.
quit being so fancy and RAISERAISEITTagjergj.
this is an obvious flop raise, and turn "just call" is turbo awful... i understand you are concerned one or both has trhe flush, but this is a big pot... u need to raise or fold.

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yeah, jesus, no wonder ive been losing recently. im gonna drop down to .5/1 until i figure out how to play poker again.
NLSoldier
11-29-2005, 10:39 AM
i can totally relate to this hand. i find myself doing this bs way too much.
flawless_victory
11-29-2005, 10:41 AM
ok, sry.
youre the best.
Spicymoose
11-29-2005, 10:51 AM
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I think this officially takes away your LAG status.

That is what you were trying to do... right?
mab_nyc69
11-29-2005, 12:11 PM
i agree 100% that you need to raise flop....question for the field??? lets walk through this becuase it happens all the time to me. I raise, someone then 3bets......I will cap. the club falls......check / fold if two players are in? i seem to spew chips here....ill get check / raised or call down two more bets. trying to tighten up post flop. thoughts?
baronzeus
11-29-2005, 06:01 PM
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ok, sry.
youre the best.

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uh...no i was agreeing. two 180+ downswings in 4 days.
Guy McSucker
11-29-2005, 06:17 PM
What happened in between the two downswings to make them separate? If I have two 180BB downswings in 4 days, that's a 360BB downswing.

Raise the flop, by the way. I save the call-flop-raise-turn line for heads up pots.

Guy.
baronzeus
11-29-2005, 06:42 PM
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What happened in between the two downswings to make them separate? If I have two 180BB downswings in 4 days, that's a 360BB downswing.


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the two 180+ downswings came quickly...one in 2300 hands, one was 220BB in 3000 hands. I played each of these out in one day.

What separated them was a 400BB upswing /images/graemlins/smile.gif but still, i cant help but feel like [censored] when i drop so much so fast repeatedly/.
11-29-2005, 06:54 PM
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Guy McSucker
12-02-2005, 08:57 AM
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the two 180+ downswings came quickly...one in 2300 hands, one was 220BB in 3000 hands. I played each of these out in one day.

What separated them was a 400BB upswing /images/graemlins/smile.gif but still, i cant help but feel like [censored] when i drop so much so fast repeatedly/.

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All this says to me is that you're playing a high-variance style. If that is so, then just stop thinking about 200BB as a swing. Fret when they get to 400.

Guy.