Should I throw away this nut straight?

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UTG+1 is Tight/Passive/Agressive 22.3/3.26 after 200 hands

Preflop: Hero is MP2 with J/images/graemlins/heart.gif, T/images/graemlins/heart.gif. MP3 posts a blind of $0.50.
<font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, Hero calls, MP3 (poster) checks, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, SB completes, BB checks.

Flop: (5 SB) K/images/graemlins/diamond.gif, A/images/graemlins/club.gif, Q/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(5 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, BB calls, UTG+1 calls, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, MP3 folds, SB folds, BB calls, UTG+1 calls.

Right now I am figuring flush draws, but not certain..

Turn: (6 BB) 7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 raises</font>, Hero?

[NobodysFreak]

Yes.

No. UTG is agressive post-flop and could be pushing you off with the scare card.

i would call the single raise but fold to a reraise by the other player. check/call the river.

[NobodysFreak]

Two players who called the flop came out firing on the turn. We face two bets cold back to us. I don't think anyone with a set was going to wait until the turn to fire away at this board.

[istewart]

Is 3.26 his PFR or his AF?

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Is 3.26 his PFR or his AF?

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That is his PFR

[Fantam]

I vote for a fold.

Its probably going to cost you at least 3 big bets to see a showdown, and I think you are almost certainly beat.

[istewart]

Yeah I'd fold.

easy easy fold. What's our line if BB donks, UTG+1 calls?

[@bsolute_luck]

small pot i could fold, but seriously if i'm not, i'm 3-betting here.

[adsman]

Normally for me this is close but with the poster there is no doubt.
Raise preflop.

It really looks like villains has the flush. Im pretty sure I am beat here, the pot is small, so I would strongly consider a fold here.

With both of em cold calling the flop twice, it's highly likely one of them is one a flush draw. One of them may be there sitting with one pair and want to see the action behind them, maybe A low kicker. So the third diamond comes on the turn and the action explodes, both of them bet out. I fold this right here and take a few bets the next time I hit the straight instead and besides, this pot ain't worth fighting over.

[adsman]

One thing I want to add, I don't fold this turn. UTG+1 could easily have a set that he had slowplayed or 2 pair. Plus he could be one of these players that loves to raise and bet scare cards. I see this kind of player very frequently. There is no way on earth at this level that I'm folding this hand. I'm not raising it but I'm calling it down. With this board he could have a whole range of hands a lot of which you are ahead of.
I will add that if BB reraises you could be in trouble.

this is pretty painful, but i lay it down.

a donk bet and a donk raise gives a very good chance of a flush, and your up against huge reverse implied odds when they do

[deception5]

Fold.

call down. there are 9bb in the pot and you have to call 2 cold giving you 4.5:1 that he doesnt ahve the flush. You will be good here 20% of the time making your call breakeven or slightly profitable.

[deception5]

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call down. there are 9bb in the pot and you have to call 2 cold giving you 4.5:1 that he doesnt ahve the flush. You will be good here 20% of the time making your call breakeven or slightly profitable.

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You aren't closing the action on the turn and you are almost always going to have to call a river bet.

[Hellmouth]

Yes, it is no longer the nuts. I play it as cheaply as possible against one person but fold it against two or more. Chances are that one person might raise with top pair and a strong draw to the flush. Two means someone most likely has it and you wont see cheaply. Hopefully villians show it down so that you can get a better read for next time.

Greg

:grunch: Fold

Both of them look like they hit their flush.

[Fryguy]

I read all of the posts, and I agree that you need to show down cheap against 1 opponent. I think against 2 there is a very good chance that one of them is beating you. Although if I get shown bad hands by both opponents I'd be pretty pissed that I laid down the best hand. If you are susceptible to tilt, I think it might be worth calling down here just for peace of mind.

[dgoldsmith]

*grunch*

Fold. Both the BB and UTG+1 have been passive through the first 3 rounds just calling. Now they are both aggresive with UTG+1 raising.

Maybe BB is trying to bluff the flush but the raise from UTG+1 is more likely to be a flush.

Dave

[Doc7]

What if the turn was the Ace of diamonds?

[beset7]

Looks like a fold but I have issues so I'd 3-bet the turn fold to a cap (j/k).

[DCWildcat]

Fold and hate my life.

If I could guarentee BB calling, I'd call down in a bigger pot.