last video for a while (edited, 1 table, easy and quick) [Archive]

baronzeus

11-28-2005, 06:25 PM

last video for a while. school and [censored]....wanted to make an easier/shorter one (like krishans) because the other one is long and will take a while just to download/review.

this ones like 14 minutes, edited to only show hands im playing in.

1table.avi (http://baronzeus.com/1table.avi) (edit : fixed )

the hands i see alternate lines are the 6h3h hand and the Kd6d hand. QdQc hand sucked but i had no choice but to fold.
AhAs i usually wait for the turn but was pissed off at this guy so i popped him on the flop, hoping he'd raise me on the turn so i could 3bet.

jba

11-28-2005, 06:52 PM

10:47:
baronzeus has 7/images/graemlins/club.gif7/images/graemlins/diamond.gif open raises OTB, BB (29/15/2) calls
flop J8/images/graemlins/spade.gif4r, check/call/bet
turn 2/images/graemlins/spade.gif, villain check/raises

how standard is this call down? how does this change according to read on villain, or if a turn blank completes the rainbow?

baronzeus

11-28-2005, 06:54 PM

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how standard is this call down?

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totally unstandard...i just had a feeling based on how the hand played out that he had nothing. it's not something i do very often of course...its easier for me to do with with 99 or TT on that board.

jba

11-28-2005, 06:58 PM

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how standard is this call down?

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totally unstandard...i just had a feeling based on how the hand played out that he had nothing. it's not something i do very often of course...its easier for me to do with with 99 or TT on that board.

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ok cool

here's another @ 12:49: folds to you in the SB and you complete with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif7/images/graemlins/club.gif; BB is 19/11/1.8 weakie, why no raise?

and then you go totally AggroHUSHPoster on the flop, but I like that part.

edit:
bz has 87 clubs, completes, BB raises
flop:
6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif5/images/graemlins/diamond.gifJ/images/graemlins/club.gif
check/bet/raise/3bet/cap

turn Q
bet/call

river 5
bet/fold

baronzeus

11-28-2005, 07:00 PM

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how standard is this call down?

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totally unstandard...i just had a feeling based on how the hand played out that he had nothing. it's not something i do very often of course...its easier for me to do with with 99 or TT on that board.

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ok cool

here's another @ 12:49: folds to you in the SB and you complete with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif7/images/graemlins/club.gif; BB is 19/11/1.8 weakie, why no raise?

and then you go totally AggroHUSHPoster on the flop, but I like that part.

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yeah, it's close between all 3 options IMO since villain is pretty decent. i almost never open limp in the SB (read: like once every 5000 hands) and thought this would be a fun spot.

damn, that hand was fun. prolly really -EV but i could see him going nutso with AQ or AK on that flop

11-28-2005, 07:01 PM

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and then you go totally AggroHUSHPoster on the flop

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Spicymoose

11-28-2005, 07:16 PM

baronzeus

11-28-2005, 07:18 PM

Spicymoose

11-28-2005, 07:18 PM

On the QQ I agree you should wait till the turn to pop. Given that you didn't are you bet/folding the turn in attempt to save 1 BB by not having to call the river with your worse hand? I think I just call down, and hope he either bluffs with a worse hand, or gives up. I kinda like bet/folding though, as I don't think we are getting bluffed off the best hand...

I dunno, was this standard?

Spicymoose

11-28-2005, 07:21 PM

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how standard is this call down?

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totally unstandard...i just had a feeling based on how the hand played out that he had nothing. it's not something i do very often of course...its easier for me to do with with 99 or TT on that board.

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ok cool

here's another @ 12:49: folds to you in the SB and you complete with 8/images/graemlins/club.gif7/images/graemlins/club.gif; BB is 19/11/1.8 weakie, why no raise?

and then you go totally AggroHUSHPoster on the flop, but I like that part.

edit:
bz has 87 clubs, completes, BB raises
flop:
6/images/graemlins/diamond.gif5/images/graemlins/diamond.gifJ/images/graemlins/club.gif
check/bet/raise/3bet/cap

turn Q
bet/call

river 5
bet/fold

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Once you cap the flop, is the rest of the hand standard? If you river a 8 or a 7, what do you do, check/call?

Spicymoose

11-28-2005, 07:21 PM

You fold Q9s to a CO open raise. Is this standard? What is the lowest you 3-bet with?

baronzeus

11-28-2005, 07:22 PM

if i river my 8 or 7 i bet and hope to get called by A high.

after he 3bet that flop i put him on diamonds or Jx. Jx woulda raised teh turn. so i said fug it he has diamonds and bet the river.

baronzeus

11-28-2005, 07:23 PM

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You fold Q9s to a CO open raise. Is this standard? What is the lowest you 3-bet with?

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QJs...sometimes QTs but that's rare.

11-28-2005, 07:23 PM

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You fold Q9s to a CO open raise. Is this standard? What is the lowest you 3-bet with?

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I saw that one too. Imo Q high hands dont do too good in pstove vs pfr hands.

baronzeus

11-28-2005, 07:24 PM

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On the QQ I agree you should wait till the turn to pop. Given that you didn't are you bet/folding the turn in attempt to save 1 BB by not having to call the river with your worse hand? I think I just call down, and hope he either bluffs with a worse hand, or gives up. I kinda like bet/folding though, as I don't think we are getting bluffed off the best hand...

I dunno, was this standard?

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the QQ hand i could have called the 3bet and called down if an A or K fell or c/r any other card on the turn. the way i played out though, i think it's possible he was bluffing but not 1 in 6 times, so i folded.

Spicymoose

11-28-2005, 07:25 PM

The rest of the video looks pretty good for me.

My suggestions for video editing:

Don't edit out preflop folds, it only takes 3 seconds to show each one, and there are some you think are standard that others might not know about. I notice you do show some, but not others. Once you hit the fold to any bet button, you can cut a second or two later.

Overall good job though.

Thanks for posting it,
Spicymoose

luckyharr

11-28-2005, 08:14 PM

3 minute mark. Heads up in BB vs. UTG raise from a 50/30. I call with 75o.

jba

11-28-2005, 08:16 PM

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3 minute mark. Heads up in BB vs. UTG raise from a 50/30. I call with 75o.

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gross!

Jeff W

11-28-2005, 09:11 PM

52/34/2.6 open raises 2 off the button. You 3-bet QQ in the BB.

Flop comes T-8-7, two hearts. You bet-3bet, he caps.

Turn is an Ar. You bet-fold.

No sir, I don't like it(check-call down).

imitation

11-28-2005, 09:16 PM

AdJd - 7:45

Preflop 32/14 opens button, you 3-bet BB, he caps.

Flop is 7d2d4h, you CR, do you think that waiting for the turn is superior here because if villian doesn't have a hand he will almost always peel on this flop, but waiting for the turn gives you more folding equity against AK, AQ. Whereas these hands might smell [censored] HU blind battles and call you down after the flop CR.

Didn't like the 78c hand, nothing else I could find of particular interest.

imitation

11-28-2005, 09:19 PM

Didn't like the 77 calldown either, I don't mind the QQ hand, but I also think that I like getting to SD with it more.

Saborion

11-29-2005, 07:01 PM

Since no one mentioned this hand I guess it's standard play, but I would still like to get some input on it.

4:57 6-handed
A/images/graemlins/spade.gif8/images/graemlins/spade.gif in the SB. UTG (44/21/1.4) limps, button (41/14/0.9) raise, you call, BB (52/34/2.6) calls.
Is this a standard preflop call against bad opposition? I believe I would have folded it, based on the button only being 14 % PFR and the BB being 34 % PFR.

As for the QQ hand. I very much doubt the opponent will fold to your turn bet, so surely a bet-call and possibly fold the river must be better than bet-fold?

The Truth

11-30-2005, 03:23 AM

At like 12 min in

You have 88 with 1 spade you raise, sb and bb call.

flop is As 9s Ts

SB check raises you, bb folds.

If big blind calls do you fold?

you call.

Turn is an offsuit 9
he bets you call.

river blanks he bets you fold.

I'll often peel the flop and fold the turn, or call turn and call river.

I think he either has a bigger spade or a bigger pair, sometimes both. Do you think we have enough equity to call on the turn here always? If we do, do you think we have enough equity to call a river bet ever?

blake

sthief09

11-30-2005, 04:42 AM

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At like 12 min in

You have 88 with 1 spade you raise, sb and bb call.

flop is As 9s Ts

SB check raises you, bb folds.

If big blind calls do you fold?

you call.

Turn is an offsuit 9
he bets you call.

river blanks he bets you fold.

I'll often peel the flop and fold the turn, or call turn and call river.

I think he either has a bigger spade or a bigger pair, sometimes both. Do you think we have enough equity to call on the turn here always? If we do, do you think we have enough equity to call a river bet ever?

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if he has any aggression in him at all id pay him off on the river. with the T9 on the board there are lots of straight draws that also can have a spade. i think youll see QJ, KJ, 98, etc. with one spade pretty often

BoxLiquid

11-30-2005, 04:52 AM

Great video. I was wondering when you had the QQ what was the purpose of the donk bet when an ace fell on the turn? I don't understand that tactic.

Is it to make him fold kings or something?

Victor

11-30-2005, 05:26 AM

posting blind...

first hand k9s. do you really want to open with 2 lagtards behind you?

kjs hand. i love it.

a8s in the sb. i fold there. i dunno tho.

ajs hand. i would call and hope to pair up or hit a flush. i never thought there was much folding equity in situations like that. can that guy really lay down ak, aq. is his range really wide enough that hes has kq, qj, q10,a10 and other garbage?

ak hand where you turned a k on a x10qk board. are you checkraising that turn?

78s hand in the sb. i wuss out after the 3bet. maybe i should start capping for river fold equity. i dont think theres many players that this is correct against tho.

Victor

11-30-2005, 05:31 AM

after reading some responses about the qq hand i just want to say that, as it happened, i was saying to myself,"check and call down." wasnt too sure what was correct so i didnt mention it. still not sure but since jeff said it....

baronzeus

11-30-2005, 08:59 PM

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after reading some responses about the qq hand i just want to say that, as it happened, i was saying to myself,"check and call down." wasnt too sure what was correct so i didnt mention it. still not sure but since jeff said it....

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yeah, im unsure about the QQ hand mostly...i guess everyone wants me to checkcall down.

once i bet it though, am i really good 1 in 6 times to call it?

baronzeus

11-30-2005, 09:01 PM

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ajs hand. i would call and hope to pair up or hit a flush. i never thought there was much folding equity in situations like that. can that guy really lay down ak, aq. is his range really wide enough that hes has kq, qj, q10,a10 and other garbage?

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tstonembd agrees with you on this one, and you are probably right, but as it stands i need to gain VERY little fold equity to make it a +EV checkraise. it's probably super close.

baronzeus

11-30-2005, 09:02 PM

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Didn't like the 77 calldown either, I don't mind the QQ hand, but I also think that I like getting to SD with it more.

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i think these two statements are contradictory, i am good more often in the 77 hand than the QQ hand IMHO.